610 ft lb of torque

real_texan77 · October 19, 2004

I don't know if this has already been stated before, but I just saw the commercial and dodge now has 325HP and 610ft. lb of torque on their newest cummins. I think that this is great that the manufactures are getting into this HP and torque war. I just hope that GM's response will be quickly as I'm in the market for a diesel truck.

Shawn T · October 19, 2004

I don't know if this has already been stated before, but I just saw the commercial and dodge now has 325HP and 610ft. lb of torque on their newest cummins. I think that this is great that the manufactures are getting into this HP and torque war. I just hope that GM's response will be quickly as I'm in the market for a diesel truck.

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Really? I thought the numbers were 315 HP and 600 ft-lbs.

bigdogs · October 19, 2004

That is what I thought too and that is why GM was going to bump the DMax's torque up to 605 in 2005

whitesnake01 · October 19, 2004

I don't know if this has already been stated before, but I just saw the commercial and dodge now has 325HP and 610ft. lb of torque on their newest cummins. I think that this is great that the manufactures are getting into this HP and torque war. I just hope that GM's response will be quickly as I'm in the market for a diesel truck.

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I saw that too. But are you really going to hold back your purchase if a competitor offers less than 1% more torque? I really doubt you will notice it. As for HP, their engine has a whopping 4.8% more. Would you really notice, especially since that HP is delivered at a point in the RPM band you do not often use? Its a marketing gimmick so they can say they have the strongest engine of the big three. It would be a big deal if it was 10-20% more, but 1% more torque is below the error margin of what can be reliably measured...

jkw · October 19, 2004

I saw that too. But are you really going to hold back your purchase if a competitor offers less than 1% more torque? I really doubt you will notice it. As for HP, their engine has a whopping 4.8% more. Would you really notice, especially since that HP is delivered at a point in the RPM band you do not often use? Its a marketing gimmick so they can say they have the strongest engine of the big three. It would be a big deal if it was 10-20% more, but 1% more torque is below the error margin of what can be reliably measured...

all true. besides, things like vehicle weight, transmission efficiency, and gearing play major roles in performance and SOTP feelings too.

Dodge can shove their #s. i love my Chevy.

KyleBst264 · October 20, 2004

I saw that too. But are you really going to hold back your purchase if a competitor offers less than 1% more torque? I really doubt you will notice it. As for HP, their engine has a whopping 4.8% more. Would you really notice, especially since that HP is delivered at a point in the RPM band you do not often use? Its a marketing gimmick so they can say they have the strongest engine of the big three. It would be a big deal if it was 10-20% more, but 1% more torque is below the error margin of what can be reliably measured...

all true. besides, things like vehicle weight, transmission efficiency, and gearing play major roles in performance and SOTP feelings too.

Dodge can shove their #s. i love my Chevy.

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Hell Yeah!!

Dodge ain't got no Allison Transmission either.

CHEVY TRUCKS · October 21, 2004

No matter how much torque dodge increase's on there cummin's they always come in dead last in diesel comparisons. The 605 ft lbs from chevy do more hauling then cummins dodge.

CMNTMXR81 · October 21, 2004

LOL!

So on a state sheet, the D-Max only makes 605 pounds/foot vs. the Dodge at 610!

OH NO!!!!!

Geez! You can't honestly tell me you're gonna hook up to the average trailer and exclaim "d**n! I wish I had that extra 5lbs/ft of torque!"

The manufacturers need to quit upping the ante by p*ssy amounts!

tbyrne · October 21, 2004

LOL!

So on a state sheet, the D-Max only makes 605 pounds/foot vs. the Dodge at 610!

OH NO!!!!!

Geez! You can't honestly tell me you're gonna hook up to the average trailer and exclaim "d**n! I wish I had that extra 5lbs/ft of torque!"

The manufacturers need to quit upping the ante by p*ssy amounts!

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The numbers keep getting better every year! It seems like it will only be a few years until we see these trucks leaving the factory with 700+ pounds/foot.

whitesnake01 · October 21, 2004

The numbers keep getting better every year! It seems like it will only be a few years until we see these trucks leaving the factory with 700+ pounds/foot.

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We've made some major gains, in terms of percentage, since the 6.5L TD. If I am not mistaken, it was rated at 385 pounds/ft, which would mean we've seen a 57% increase so far. To remain on that trend, we need an engine with 950 lbs/ft to make it equally impressive...

linda · October 21, 2004

2035 Chevrolet 3500 33.6litre turbo diesel w/ tow package and LT trim

4,250RWHP, and 5800lb/ft of torque

coming soon!

CMNTMXR81 · October 21, 2004

I'm not complaining about the progress at all. But it seems that every year the "other" manufacturer's or GM just "edge" out their competition to claim statistical superiority.

I know they're laden by C.A.F.E. (which I'm not sure if it applies to diesel's or this class truck anyway), warranty, servicability, and training standards.

But "besting" each other by 5hp or 5lbs/ft of torque is lame.

GM: Well Dodge upped the ante to 610lbs/ft for 2005, so for 2006, we figured we'd put them on the trailer. Ours is 700lb/ft.

That's a difference!

ff185 · October 21, 2004

I have heard the dmax still has 520 ft lb in 1st ond 5th and 590 2-4 (on 04s). Is this still true with the 05s, 520 1 and 5, 605 2-4? Do ford and dodge do this? I have a motor trend mag from a couple months ago where they tested a ford dodge and chevy. the ford with 560 ft lbs still out pulled the other two. Now ford is up to 570, will gm going from 590 to 605 really help? I've also read the pwerstroke has an extra 1000 rpm and if they get full power in all gears they will beat the other two every time. Don't get me wrong, I'm a chevy fan, I'm just wondering about using the differant torque ratings and also not upping the hp.