2005 Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, Yukon XL

dmjr77 · July 30, 2004

Ok,

Now that I have seen the 05 Silverado 2500HD photos, I must commend them for making the change to the HD's (makes we mant to trade my 2000) Are there any changes for the full size SUV's??

Thank You

R Dogg 56 · July 30, 2004

Ok,
Now that I have seen the 05 Silverado 2500HD photos, I must commend them for making the change to the HD's (makes we mant to trade my 2000) Are there any changes for the full size SUV's??

Thank You

Outsides sources are hinting that they will follow with the Avalanche-inspired front and will incorporate it into the larger SUVs. However, this has yet to be confirmed. Also, I'm not positive if GMC will do the same with the Sierra face on the Yukon, Yukon XL, or Denali's, but IMO, they should leave well enough alone.

Click on the pic for Chevy's site in Mexico that hints at what may be reality in the near future, albeit the pic is dated for 2004.

ClipperSkipper · August 3, 2004

Did rumors die of a 2500 HD Sub with Dmax and Allie?

Yupporamma could you see these at the dump and

boatramp. Gotta have a Thule on top for authenticity!

Have a great one!

R Dogg 56 · August 3, 2004

Did rumors die of a 2500 HD Sub with Dmax and Allie?

A thread that asks the very same thing.....CLICKY!!!

dannyukonxl · August 3, 2004

i think ford is going to stop using diesels in the excursion or at least thats what i heard , but i have my doubts about gm putting hte dmax in the suburban just for cost benefit ratio. how many people actually use a suburban for heavy duty towing that an 8.1 couldnt do? they figure only people who need to tow that much will just buy a pick up that can handle the load much better... ie fifth wheel. also the suburban is generally regarded as a soccer mom car... at least the 1500, all my friends that ive talked to with the 1500 say it has ample power for towing whatever they need, small boat or a jet ski(s), dirtbikes, small camper etc . However just a small few have the 2500 and the true need for the diesel... go to the gmc or chevy dealer and see how many 2500's they have compared to 1500's or denalis and z71's and you could even include tahoes and yukons into this because they have the same engines, its probably going to be around 1 :10-15. So why would gm put a diesel engine in a 2500 suburban if they know people will just buy the 8100, not to mention could you image some people who drive suv's now adays driving a diesel... cold morning.... in a hurry... not warmed up... flooring it, or just parking it and just turning it off without letting the turbo cool off, now yes i know the people who would get the diesel would not drive it in such an irresponsible manner but to gm those people dont supply a large enough demand for them (gm) to make a decision to put the dmax in there,. ok ill quit babbling on its late just my 2 cents ... but personally i would like to see the dmax in the burb, it can only expand on what its already capable of doing

R Dogg 56 · August 6, 2004

i think ford is going to stop using diesels in the excursion or at least thats what i heard ,

Word is that by the end of 2004, no more Excursion.

but i have my doubts about gm putting hte dmax in the suburban just for cost benefit ratio. how many people actually use a suburban for heavy duty towing that an 8.1 couldnt do? they figure only people who need to tow that much will just buy a pick up that can handle the load much better... ie fifth wheel.

Not sure if it has anything to do with cost-benefit ratio, but I can see where the arguement would be. As it is at this time, yes, a truck would make more sense than a Suburban for most people.....but there are some that would see this as a godsend. IMO, I'd take the truck, but that's just me.

also the suburban is generally regarded as a soccer mom car... at least the 1500, all my friends that ive talked to with the 1500 say it has ample power for towing whatever they need, small boat or a jet ski(s), dirtbikes, small camper etc . However just a small few have the 2500 and the true need for the diesel... go to the gmc or chevy dealer and see how many 2500's they have compared to 1500's or denalis and z71's

I've seen quite a few Sub's pull the big horse trailers along with all the necessary gear and the whole family. Like before, it's all in personal use/preference.

and you could even include tahoes and yukons into this because they have the same engines, its probably going to be around 1 :10-15.

More likely, the ratio would be around 1:25 for gas over diesel, but if GM were to do it, that ratio won't be as high as we think.

So why would gm put a diesel engine in a 2500 suburban if they know people will just buy the 8100, not to mention could you image some people who drive suv's now adays driving a diesel... cold morning.... in a hurry... not warmed up... flooring it, or just parking it and just turning it off without letting the turbo cool off, now yes i know the people who would get the diesel would not drive it in such an irresponsible manner but to gm those people dont supply a large enough demand for them (gm) to make a decision to put the dmax in there,.

Good point about the wait for diesels to warm up, but if you take the time and have the patience, there's no worries. Also, the weight of the Dmax is still an issue that Gm is tending to. Unless I'm mistaken, there has been talk about putting together a lighter-weight Dmax in the SUV's in the future, but no major initiative has been set yet. GM did have some success with putting the 6.2 and 6.5 diesels in the Subs, and the US Military has had diesels in the Subs and possibly the Tahoes (not certain on that, though), so if they can have the capability, why not us civilians? And if you think about it, what do most ambulances and medical vehicles use? Around here in SE MN anyway, they use diesel. I don't think they take the time to let the turbo cool as much as they should, but I'm not in the right place to tell them that.

ok ill quit babbling on its late just my 2 cents ... but personally i would like to see the dmax in the burb, it can only expand on what its already capable of doing

Agreed. The Dmax in the SUV's would be quite a lineup change, but if implemented, I believe it would recieve a warm welcome to GM.

Chris97K1500 · August 6, 2004

I would buy a Suburban with a DMax/Ally in a heart beat. Towing a 28' camper with room for 8 and getting 15mpg while doing it is something you'll never see in an 8.1L. IMO, that would be one heck of a towing machine! Chris

2001 4.8 Silverado · August 21, 2004

I would like to know when is GM going to stop making every thing to look like the d**n avalanche that is the uglyiest vehicle GM has ever built, why could they not stay with the body style of the 99's to 02's which was a very popular model that's why chev sales are down on their trucks go figure

dannyukonxl · August 23, 2004

i like the gmc line up a lot better than the chevy's... the avalanche look sucks i agree but it isnt that bad on the ss nor the 2005 hd.. but back to the diesel thing... volkswagen makes that toureg with a v10 twin turbo diesel with 310 hp and 550 ftlbs... and claim its the most fuel efficient car they make, theyre also starting to use the w engine design along with the vr in a lot of their cars with some pretty good results ... only time will tell which and when companies are going to start using diesels

http://www.vw.com/engine/index.htm?car=touareg#

hopefully theyll get the hint

Machine · August 23, 2004

If GM offered a DMAX Suburban, I would dump both my Escalade and Z71 Suburban.

I follow the Exursion websites and no news of removing their Diesel engine from their offering. However, the Excursion could be discontinued next year, though,

Colorado Kid · August 23, 2004

I'd like a D-max Suburaban because I have 3 kids . . .3 across in the back seat of my crew cab is possible, but the cross country trips would be better for everybody in a Suburban. Right now the big Kids (Mrs. Kid and me) are more comfy in the pickup, but the little Kids are happier in the Honda Odyssey. Taking the Odyssey obviously means no camper. A diesel Suburban (actually, since we're dreaming I'd rather have a diesel Yukon XL 2500) could replace the 2500HD crew cab and the Odyssey, leaving space in the garage for a convertible for me to drive to work. If would get the fuel economy of the Odyssey (The D-max Crew Cab already meats or beats the Odyssey for fuel economy), haul the little Kids and their friends in comfort and could still pull one heck of a trailer. I'd have bought one in 2002 if they'd built it, and I'm still waiting.

Why not the 8.1L? Fuel burn. My father-in-law's 8.1L 2500HD burns more fuel by itself than my D-max does pulling a 5th wheel. I just can't see planning a family vacation at 7-8 MPG (towing).