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Hi - 

 

I have a '24 Denali Ultimate 2500 with 700mi.  The 2 of the last 5 times I've driven this week I've had no sound.  I have to put in "safe mode" to get it going.  The hold the mute button to reset doesn't restore sound, just resets.  Had to use safe mode again.

 

Are others seeing this?  I saw in another forum that someone had to have Bose amp replaced as it does more than just amplification.

 

Don't want to take to dealer to show me how to reset in safe mode or "can't replicate" without being armed with more knowledge.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Cheers, Bob! 

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30 minutes ago, H1ghlndr said:

Hi - 

 

I have a '24 Denali Ultimate 2500 with 700mi.  The 2 of the last 5 times I've driven this week I've had no sound.  I have to put in "safe mode" to get it going.  The hold the mute button to reset doesn't restore sound, just resets.  Had to use safe mode again.

 

Are others seeing this?  I saw in another forum that someone had to have Bose amp replaced as it does more than just amplification.

 

Don't want to take to dealer to show me how to reset in safe mode or "can't replicate" without being armed with more knowledge.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Cheers, Bob! 

 

 

Take it in.  Give them TSB number 24-NA-100 and give them PI number PIT6101J.  

 

24-NA-100: Radio Software Version Y172 – Multiple Updates for IOK - (Aug 9, 2024)

 

Y172 Most Notable Improvements:

Important: Improvements will vary by model, build configuration, system, and sales region. Not all vehicles have all features.

Most notable improvements contained in this release may include:

Audio:

  • Audio app may crash and change source on own
  • Audio loss when changing drive mode
  • No audio after phone call
  • No audio and audio app blank
  • No audio and volume knob doesn't respond
  • No audio on start
  • No turn signals audio
  • Start up audio delayed
  • With an Android phone paired there is no audio

Cluster:

  • Album Art flashes on XM station change
  • When the radio is off there may be a Power icon showing on the audio page. "Audio Off" to let the driver know the radio is off is missing

Connectivity:

  • 4G connection is dropping

Display:

  • Audio card crashes and will not recover
  • Audio card may freeze
  • Black Screen
  • Black Screen after accepting TCPS
  • Black screen when launching Trailering App
  • Black screen when switching profile during a call on a password lock screen
  • Blank screen after accepting TCPS
  • Card view Clock app in wrong position on ignition start
  • Card view disappears after changing profile
  • Card view is blank when profile creation interrupted
  • Home screen glitching
  • Loading message for Maps and audio cards
  • Maps and Trailering might be missing from the right-side apps view
  • The display may look like a picture negative when switched to day mode
  • The Home screen may not have any app icons

HVAC:

  • The blower speed turns down at startup by itself

Navigation:

  • Google Maps blinking
  • Icons incorrect
  • Location changing randomly
  • Maps blank in porch view
  • Maps freezing in card view
  • Navigation page will not load on cluster
  • Turn-By-Turn may not work

Phone:

  • Android Auto screen is cut off and the touch display does not work
  • Answer button on the screen does not work
  • Apple Music skipping songs
  • CarPlay will not connect or is slow to connect
  • Customer can't open the CarPlay app through the home screen icon
  • During a call the audio may stay on the handset instead of being heard through the vehicle
  • Echo during phone call
  • The CarPlay screen might flicker

Profiles:

  • Correct password not working when changing from driver profile to new profile
  • No incorrect password pop-up when entering incorrect password
  • Settings app and new profile do not respond after switching to new profile
  • Stuck on loading message on profile change

Programming:

  • Customer may see a message to "restart the system to complete the update”
  • Download stuck at 67%
  • Flash/Flicker when selecting x button or back button on faceplate
  • The OTA update may fail
  • The USB update may fail

Radio:

  • Keyboard will not come up after change language button is pressed
  • The favorites button on the steering wheel controls may not work

SXM:

  • Customer sees "No Signal" message
  • Customer sees "XM Loading" message
  • XM audio pausing for a second when an icon is pressed on any screen

Trailing App:

  • Trailer app not launching from card view for first time user
  • White screen displays after clicking done in trailering-towing assist screen
  • Your trailering profiles may not sync with the cloud

USB:

  • USB data not functioning

Voice Recognition:

  • Alexa not stopping on SWC end button press
  • Google Assistant asks for device when commanded to play music
  • Google Assistant extra-long delayed response time
  • No Voice Recognition functions

Stability:

  • Card View takes a long time to load apps
  • Radio doesn't turn on
  • Radio Stays on for a minute after cancelling RAP
  • Reboot
  • System freezes
  • When changing Trailer Maintenance data to 100% the system may crash
  • When exiting camera, the app tray and status bar may disappear, and the transition is not smooth

Non-GMNA fixes:

  • The radio may switch from DAB to FM after an announcement.

 

PIT6101J: Intermittent No Audio

 

Equipped with RPO UQA, UQS

 

1. Verify the loss of audio the customer is experiencing.

1.1 No audio for the duration of the ignition cycle, but may return on the next key cycle and No turn signal “click clack”

If the customer experiences this concern, please replace the amplifier.

2. Verify radio software is up to date. If software is Y171 (IOK), or V171 (IOS, IOT, IOU) or lower please update the radio.

3. (IOK Only) If the customer is experiencing short cuts in audio primarily shortly after start up (usually the audio cut is no longer than a couple of seconds), but audio always returns, after installing radio software Y172, this is due to a software anomaly in the radio.

3.1 Do not replace the radio or amplifier for this condition. GM is aware of this concern and will update dealers with a service bulletin once a fix is released.

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If you do go in and get the Y172 update, pay attention on Bluetooth calls to see if you have any popping noises. Mine started doing this after I got the update, and my dealer said others mentioned the same thing after the same update. 

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8 hours ago, H1ghlndr said:

Thank you @newdude.  Looks like fresh recall (N242435631) hit 9/10 for my truck for it.  Getting it Monday.

 

I appreciate your help!

Bob

 

 

Recall is for battery drain.  Reprograms the serial data gateway and the radio.  

 

"Certain model years and vehicle makes noted in the table above may have a condition where the battery is at risk for a drain following an over-the-air update."

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Had recall done.  Actually showed up with radio sound not working even after several resets and safe mode.   Of course, when tech got to it, it was working.  
 

I asked them to do the 24-NA-117 (superseded 100) and they said it was included in recall N242435631 I went in for anyway.  

 

How can I check to see what radio version I have now after service to verify?

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  • 2 weeks later...

After the update, i have guidance lines on for the camera, cant remove them like before. And the volume for google assistance is so low you can't hear it with no way of making it louder. I had no issues with my radio before this update. What's supposed to make it better actually made it worse. 

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2 hours ago, Bstevens1084 said:

Because I prefer not having them. I don't need them and to me they are useless

 

They are perfect for backing up into a parking spot.

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@newdude - thank you for your help above.  Condition just came back after several weeks and Y172 Update.  Can you send me PDF of PIT6101J?   I can only find up to H on web.  Want to have in hand before next dealer visit.  Previous versions said to check Julian date first and then replace.  That will be two trips for me.  Want latest version in hand that says replace.

 

Also, do you know way to confirm amp p/n for 2500 Denali Ultimate?  The online sites only show 1500 DU.

 

iayh

Bob

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36 minutes ago, H1ghlndr said:

@newdude - thank you for your help above.  Condition just came back after several weeks and Y172 Update.  Can you send me PDF of PIT6101J?   I can only find up to H on web.  Want to have in hand before next dealer visit.  Previous versions said to check Julian date first and then replace.  That will be two trips for me.  Want latest version in hand that says replace.

 

Also, do you know way to confirm amp p/n for 2500 Denali Ultimate?  The online sites only show 1500 DU.

 

iayh

Bob

 

 

Same amp p/n.

 

PI:

 

PIT6101L.pdf

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