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Leftover new 2023 LTZ 2WD, good deal or potential problem child?


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A dealer near me has 6 new 2023's on the lot. 4 RST and 2 LTZ. They are base models with no added options, which an LTZ has all I need. Looks like they were built in June of 2023 and have sit on the lot since. Being 2 wheel drive probably doesn't help them out.

 Are these a good deal at about 12k under sticker, or are they still sitting because of being potenial lemons?

I don't need 4WD, but like the safety features of the LTZ.

What say the forum?

Thanks,

Dave

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29 minutes ago, 5.3isnota327 said:

A dealer near me has 6 new 2023's on the lot. 4 RST and 2 LTZ. They are base models with no added options, which an LTZ has all I need. Looks like they were built in June of 2023 and have sit on the lot since. Being 2 wheel drive probably doesn't help them out.

 Are these a good deal at about 12k under sticker, or are they still sitting because of being potenial lemons?

I don't need 4WD, but like the safety features of the LTZ.

What say the forum?

Thanks,

Dave

They’re about to be two model years old. Not enough of a discount. Look up low mileage used trucks that’s how much of a hit you’ll it will be once it’s registered. 

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9 hours ago, 5.3isnota327 said:

A dealer near me has 6 new 2023's on the lot. 4 RST and 2 LTZ. They are base models with no added options, which an LTZ has all I need. Looks like they were built in June of 2023 and have sit on the lot since. Being 2 wheel drive probably doesn't help them out.

 Are these a good deal at about 12k under sticker, or are they still sitting because of being potenial lemons?

I don't need 4WD, but like the safety features of the LTZ.

What say the forum?

Thanks,

Dave

 

Don't think I understand the "Lemon" comment. No more so than any other new truck. 

 

Opinion varies but I don't see a new left over, even two years old, as equivalent to a two-year-old used truck. Zero miles, to me, it a reason to pay a bit more than used. I prefer to break in my own equipment.

 

In my area there is a current trend to mark current vehicles up as much as 5K over sticker. 12K under isn't horrible. If fact, isn't that a high percentage of the sticker on a base model?  If one of those isn't 'white',......🤔 where you at? 😉

 

I'd try, "I'll give you your price if it includes tax, title and license". Then wrestle him for the difference. :crackup:

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21 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Don't think I understand the "Lemon" comment. No more so than any other new truck. 

 

Opinion varies but I don't see a new left over, even two years old, as equivalent to a two-year-old used truck. Zero miles, to me, it a reason to pay a bit more than used. I prefer to break in my own equipment.

 

In my area there is a current trend to mark current vehicles up as much as 5K over sticker. 12K under isn't horrible. If fact, isn't that a high percentage of the sticker on a base model?  If one of those isn't 'white',......🤔 where you at? 😉

 

I'd try, "I'll give you your price if it includes tax, title and license". Then wrestle him for the difference. :crackup:

In my area those aren’t base models. Ford is discounted 16K for 24s. Ram with their remodel and even Toyota is discounted. All 24 year models. 

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4 hours ago, KARNUT said:

In my area those aren’t base models. Ford is discounted 16K for 24s. Ram with their remodel and even Toyota is discounted. All 24 year models. 

 

I couldn't say. I was parroting what he said. (base model) I don't follow the T1 nuances. And I didn't know anything about your area. I can only speak to what is in my area and to my experience. He asked an "Opinion". I know better than to offer them and yet.... I do. :crackup:

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9 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

I couldn't say. I was parroting what he said. (base model) I don't follow the T1 nuances. And I didn't know anything about your area. I can only speak to what is in my area and to my experience. He asked an "Opinion". I know better than to offer them and yet.... I do. :crackup:

Same here. Of course this truck country, as they say in the ads.

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Chevy trim levels -- this is 2023 1500

Lower trims to trims to the left.

Generally, as trim level increases the amount of standard equipment it carries increases.

 

Every trim level has options that can be added.

 

Sometimes equipment available (or standard) on a higher trim cannot be purchased on a lower trim.

Some options cannot be equipped on the same truck. 

 

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OP needs to decide if one of those trucks is equipped the way he want's it (do I buy one at any price?) and then decide of the price offered/negotiated is low enough for the area where it is being purchased.

 

 

Dealer knows they've been in inventory for a long time.

Dealer knows that those trucks don't have added options.

Dealer knows that the 25's will be arriving shortly. 

 

If I wanted one of them, I'd probably be trying to improve the discount -- just cuz I don't expect dealers to start by offering their best deal.

 

 

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On 8/9/2024 at 9:42 PM, 5.3isnota327 said:

A dealer near me has 6 new 2023's on the lot. 4 RST and 2 LTZ. They are base models with no added options, which an LTZ has all I need. Looks like they were built in June of 2023 and have sit on the lot since. Being 2 wheel drive probably doesn't help them out.

 Are these a good deal at about 12k under sticker, or are they still sitting because of being potenial lemons?

I don't need 4WD, but like the safety features of the LTZ.

What say the forum?

Thanks,

Dave

What is the asking price for the RSTs and the LTZ? What prices have you been quoted?

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My guess is that they’ve not sold well simply because they are not 4WD.  Frankly, living in the north with snow, I can’t imagine buying one of these trucks in 2WD.  However, if you think you’ll be okay with 2WD, go for it.  I’d definitely try to talk the dealer down even more, but do your homework and get your best deal.

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It also depends on how long you plan to keep it.  If you don't trade frequently in 8-10 years there won't be a huge price difference between a 2023 and a 2025 with similar mileage and condition so the depreciation hit isn't as bad.  If you don't need 4WD and like the truck as it's equipped, go for it.  I'd try to negotiate a bit more off on the price - never hurts to try.  Regarding 2WD vs 4WD, my father in-law in Wisconsin always had a truck and kept them for years.  The only one he traded early was 4WD model the dealer talked him into getting because he didn't have any 2WD trucks on the lot.  My father in-law traded that 4WD truck in after 18 months on a new 2WD truck.  He always felt if you can't get somewhere in snow in 2WD, you don't need to be there, and he drove 4WD HD line trucks for a living.  That said, I've always preferred a 4WD truck, but hardly ever use it in 4WD.

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23 minutes ago, Port Tack Farm said:

My father in-law traded that 4WD truck in after 18 months on a new 2WD truck.  He always felt if you can't get somewhere in snow in 2WD, you don't need to be there, and he drove 4WD HD line trucks for a living.  That said, I've always preferred a 4WD truck, but hardly ever use it in 4WD.

 I once knew a fella that went by the mantra that the only thing 4WD gets you is further to walk out when you do get stuck. Somewhat true in DEEP snow I guess, but 4WD does certainly have it's place.

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They are offering 13k off new Silverados in Houston, Texas.  That discount you mention above is nothing great in our area, but I understand all areas aren't the same.

 

I've had 2WD trucks most of my life, but you will be hard pressed to get me into another 2WD truck in the future.  I use 4WD too much, enjoy it too much, and play with it too much to ever consider going 2WD again.  I cant count how many times I have used the 4WD system to get equipment and other people unstuck, to drag downed trees out of the roadway, and to play in the sand/dirt.  

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