OCI, not when but why?

[VicFirth]

Their email response:

 

"Restore & Protect is our highest performing product in the Valvoline portfolio. While other Valvoline products focus on wear prevention, Restore & Protect couples wear protection while actively helping restore engine cleanliness and protect against future damage by dissolving engine-killing deposits, and meets the demanding requirements of turbo-charged and gasoline direct injected engines. This engine oil meets or exceeds all requirements of ILSAC GF-6A, API SP, API SN with SN PLUS, API SN, Resource Conserving, and all preceding API and ILSAC gasoline categories."

[VicFirth]

They're making some bold claims stating specifically that no other motor oil can clean like this one.  

[customboss]

Interesting to me for reasons I’m unable to share that Cummins allowed Valvoline to market a consumer level RESTORE product. Cummins owned the IP just like Cummins owned Premium Blue chemistry and brand until in 2000 while they were near bankruptcy they sold( for a pittance)  the Premium Blue brand to Valvoline. The term “additives “ “base oils ” ”synthetic” mean nothing to a formulator or tester. 
Retired Cummins guy here so it’s perplexing. 
 

 

[customboss]

21 hours ago, KARNUT said:

I would be apprehensive about putting any cleaning oil in a higher mileage engine. I would worry about clogging oil passages and the oil pick up screen. I have experience using a high detergent oil in an older engine and clogging the oil pump screen. Using in a new engine as a preventative. That would be fine. 

We changed the oil

filters at Cummins frequently with original Restore. 

[VicFirth]

25 minutes ago, customboss said:

Interesting to me for reasons I’m unable to share that Cummins allowed Valvoline to market a consumer level RESTORE product. Cummins owned the IP just like Cummins owned Premium Blue chemistry and brand until in 2000 while they were near bankruptcy they sold( for a pittance)  the Premium Blue brand to Valvoline. The term “additives “ “base oils ” ”synthetic” mean nothing to a formulator or tester. 
Retired Cummins guy here so it’s perplexing. 
 

 

 

Very interesting.  

 

Based on the PDS for the Restore Gen 2, they specifically state IV/V base oils for that particular oil.  I'm not caught up in that anymore, however, this consumer Restore & Protect appears to be III based on SDS and pour point.  I'd love to know what they are using to achieve the cleaning ability just out of curiosity and general knowledge.  I wonder if this is truly a "breakthrough", or sort of a repackaing/branding of an existing technology.  

Edited December 19, 2023 by VicFirth

[Grumpy Bear]

6 hours ago, VicFirth said:

I can't say for sure but I'm getting that from this:

 

 

I see. Well, that wasn't in the video. Like I said, I've been distracted lately. Thanks for the additional information. 

 

THANKS!

 

Where do you buy this stuff? AND is 5W30 the only grade?

Edited December 20, 2023 by Grumpy Bear

[customboss]

7 hours ago, VicFirth said:

 

Very interesting.  

 

Based on the PDS for the Restore Gen 2, they specifically state IV/V base oils for that particular oil.  I'm not caught up in that anymore, however, this consumer Restore & Protect appears to be III based on SDS and pour point.  I'd love to know what they are using to achieve the cleaning ability just out of curiosity and general knowledge.  I wonder if this is truly a "breakthrough", or sort of a repackaing/branding of an existing technology.  

Me too,Cummins R&D/Technology scientist retired since 2014.......I think it's a breakthrough vs what I saw tested.....

Edited December 20, 2023 by customboss
specificity about position to observe tech materials science

[customboss]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

I see. Well, that wasn't in the video. Like I said, I've been distracted lately. Thanks for the additional information. 

 

THANKS!

 

Where do you buy this stuff? AND is 5W30 the only grade?

5w30 would be fine for your needs my Brother.......

[customboss]

6 hours ago, VicFirth said:

 

Very interesting.  

 

Based on the PDS for the Restore Gen 2, they specifically state IV/V base oils for that particular oil.  I'm not caught up in that anymore, however, this consumer Restore & Protect appears to be III based on SDS and pour point.  I'd love to know what they are using to achieve the cleaning ability just out of curiosity and general knowledge.  I wonder if this is truly a "breakthrough", or sort of a repackaing/branding of an existing technology.  

I bet??? 

LOL 

 

[VicFirth]

8 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

I see. Well, that wasn't in the video. Like I said, I've been distracted lately. Thanks for the additional information. 

 

THANKS!

 

Where do you buy this stuff? AND is 5W30 the only grade?

I think right now it's only at Autzone or AA but it will be at Walmart within a week or so I read. 

 

0w20, 5w20 and 5w30.

Edited December 20, 2023 by VicFirth

[VicFirth]

It's $38.99 at Autozone.  Saw this on another forum.

 

[VicFirth]

Time will tell.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by VicFirth

[diyer2]

Hefty price IMO. I would use SeaFoam in the crankcase to clean.

[VicFirth]

30 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

Hefty price IMO. I would use SeaFoam in the crankcase to clean.

 

It's nothing like SeaFoam.  It's actually priced accordingly.  

 

If what Valvoline is saying is true, this is a pretty impressive product that shouldn't be overlooked.  

 

Those rednecks in Kentucky may have come up with something pretty good here.  

[VicFirth]

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