Any 2.7 Elevations that are lifted?

ESierra · June 20, 2022

Was curious if their were any owners with the four banger that had lift kits on it, and how is it handling bigger/different tires?

It seems hard to find owners who lift their elevation that are 4 bangers!

I am getting an RC 3.5" lift with Cooper Discoverer AT3/XLTs wrapped around the elevation black rims!

Edited June 20, 2022 by ESierra

TNTSierra · June 21, 2022

Maybe because a 4 banger is mostly bought for fuel economy!? And throwing bigger tires and a lift on it will destroy what it’s main purpose was built for!?!

ESierra · June 21, 2022

9 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

Maybe because a 4 banger is mostly bought for fuel economy!? And throwing bigger tires and a lift on it will destroy what it’s main purpose was built for!?!

I mean.. I have yet to see someone buy the 4 banger for economy... Being that they are being shipped by default with them next upcoming year..

I guess I'll be the only one with it.

TNTSierra · June 21, 2022

2 hours ago, ESierra said:

I mean.. I have yet to see someone buy the 4 banger for economy... Being that they are being shipped by default with them next upcoming year..

I guess I'll be the only one with it.

Seriously?? That’s why they made the turbo 4 cylinder! For fuel economy. If u wanted power they offer 2 V8s, and you get a wonderful exhaust note along with it.

pepe48134 · June 21, 2022

Nothing extreme but I did a 2" lift with Bilstein 5100's and Nitto 34" Tall 275/65R20 w stock wheels on my 22 refreshed Silverado LT 2.7L. Nitto is the only 34" tire you can get in non Light Truck load and it only weights 4 lbs more than stock LT tires are all 13-18 lbs heaver each and its that unsprung weight that really kills MPG. Fuel economy was not effected in my case and I looks way better than Stock IMO. RIdes better too.

ESierra · June 22, 2022

23 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

Seriously?? That’s why they made the turbo 4 cylinder! For fuel economy. If u wanted power they offer 2 V8s, and you get a wonderful exhaust note along with it.

I mean, not everyone can afford that premium to get a V8 lol. Plus due to shortages. Never the less, this is off topic from the original post.

ESierra · June 22, 2022

17 hours ago, pepe48134 said:

Nothing extreme but I did a 2" lift with Bilstein 5100's and Nitto 34" Tall 275/65R20 w stock wheels on my 22 refreshed Silverado LT 2.7L. Nitto is the only 34" tire you can get in non Light Truck load and it only weights 4 lbs more than stock LT tires are all 13-18 lbs heaver each and its that unsprung weight that really kills MPG. Fuel economy was not effected in my case and I looks way better than Stock IMO. RIdes better too.

Looks great! I'm using my stock wheels paired with 33 as well. At least now you can use that side step for a real lift iI find the side steps useless when your tall! Hows the over all ride height?

4banger · June 22, 2022

On 6/20/2022 at 8:46 PM, TNTSilverado said:

Maybe because a 4 banger is mostly bought for fuel economy!? And throwing bigger tires and a lift on it will destroy what it’s main purpose was built for!?!

Well that's the stigma anyway. It's just not how it works though. Case in point, 1989 dodge introduces the cummins turbo diesel, nice long stroke low hp but way more torque than hp rating and at way lower rpm than the naturally aspirated competition. In an era of big block v8's as the alternatives. And that tiny little 5.9 liter displacement could have a big camper on, 4 horses in the trailer behind and head to the mountains getting good mileage while the v8's wheezed so hard and sucked fuel at open bar rates. The reason that cummins was able to do that with it's anemic initial ratings of 160/170 hp and 400/410 ft/lbs torque...was because the turbos eliminate elevation...they only lose 0.05% power per 1000' but the naturally aspirated 3% per 1000' so elevation largely eliminated and easy to equal the big block competitors if not surpass them.

The 2.7t is the same formula...long stroke turbo with way more torque than horsepower and at lower rpm than naturally aspirated peak torque numbers. Stay with me here...I live Calgary Alberta, 4000' elevation. Where I live I have 22 ft/lbs more torque than the 6.2 and I have it at lower rpms. I'm sorry but this little boosted 4banger is far more truck designed engine than either of the 2 v8's which are both short stroke motors fyi. The 5.3 isn't really in the same league when elevation comes into play, they are equal at sea level but the 2.7 walks away from there. The 6.2 still has 62 more hp at my elevation despite that 22 ft/lbs torque deficit but it's burning 30% more fuel around town here, I know as I just returned a 2022 6.2 rental that I just put about 1000 miles on and picked up my 2.7 two days ago and closing in on it's first tank of break-in at about 260 miles right now and just under half tank on it's first tank! and it's 30% less fuel by the mpg rating on both trucks dashes back to back. And this torque pull is effortless...torque spins those tires, that's why diesels are preferred for the big trucks...it's not the diesel, it's the turbo's that make them special and able to pull down respectable mileage and power combined, turbo regardless of gas type is going to run lifts and tires and loads better than the v8's at most elevations above sea level where 60% of us live and with less gas consumed for everything but the longest steepest heaviest pulls.

Edited June 22, 2022 by 4banger

4banger · June 22, 2022

22 hours ago, pepe48134 said:

Nothing extreme but I did a 2" lift with Bilstein 5100's and Nitto 34" Tall 275/65R20 w stock wheels on my 22 refreshed Silverado LT 2.7L. Nitto is the only 34" tire you can get in non Light Truck load and it only weights 4 lbs more than stock LT tires are all 13-18 lbs heaver each and its that unsprung weight that really kills MPG. Fuel economy was not effected in my case and I looks way better than Stock IMO. RIdes better too.

God that looks good. I just picked up a Chev custom turbo and have 4" ordered. I'm going for a modern highboy look. Mine comes with factory 20's and 33's (275 60r20 with a 255 80r17 spare)...well I've ordered some 17's lightweight with 0 offset (black rhino chase, 25 lbs, factory 20's are 31 lbs) and will be doing Falken at3w 255 80r17's which are likely heavier than stock tire but I need a couple things...snowflake rating and E rated tires are preferred for this outdoorsman as never seem to get flats. As it is for an E rated tire this falken in this size is 52.5 lbs so will likely be a wash on weight to stock when I'm done as I'm gonna save 5-6 lbs per wheel but add it back in the tire. Should keep my acceleration but now I get 8" sidewall instead of 6.5" and 1" less tread width should help in mileage also ride quality and less likely to tear up on curbs. Pizza cutters work better for me. The torque is amazing on this motor, I haven't had mine long, about 260 miles on break-in tank 1 right now but holy does it go down the road easy, and sipping fuel, the 6.2 rental I just dropped off seems like it would rather hit the couch and needs more pedal to keep it motivated forward. I'll post my impressions and differences elsewhere but you and the OP won't be alone in lifting the this 4banger with the spin whistle.

Edited June 22, 2022 by 4banger

Gangly · June 22, 2022

On 6/20/2022 at 6:38 PM, ESierra said:

Was curious if their were any owners with the four banger that had lift kits on it, and how is it handling bigger/different tires?

It seems hard to find owners who lift their elevation that are 4 bangers!

I am getting an RC 3.5" lift with Cooper Discoverer AT3/XLTs wrapped around the elevation black rims!

Generally the 4 banger turbo is considered the introductory engine for these trucks. Although a few make it into higher trim levels, you primarily see them in stripped down Custom trim level trucks or similar. A lot of the time, people who get stripped down, low option trucks are doing so for fiscal reasons such as needing a base model truck for singular work purposes, or fleet trucks in which case money spent on pimpin' it out is money down the drain. Understand that the 2.7 can be had in other trims and its a good motor, but most of the time people arent choosing that motor on purpose above the other options and it therefore gets left off of most vehicles being purchased with higher trim levels by individuals who might have more disposable income to spend on items such as lifts.

This is not to say that the 2.7 turbo is a lesser motor. Its a good motor and everybody on this site has read through 4banger's 15,000 word essays on multiple posts about how comparatively good they are hp/liter wise, in altitude, etc.(we get it 4banger, your a fan of the motor ).

Give it time and a few 2.7's with lifts will pop up here and there. However, don't let the wait discourage you! Its an easy mod to do and relatively easy so I say go for it as soon as you can. After all, a 2.7 with a lift is gonna look approximately the same as a 5.3 with a lift or a 6.2 with a lift.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Gangly

4banger · June 22, 2022

Lol, yes, we all need the full picture and that is part of why I am here but more so to check out all the other stuff guys do to theirs and see what I may want for mine.

I checked the Canadian website and the LT is the highest trim level you can get the 4banger here. Also I am generally talking about the 2022 refresh 2.7 rated at 310 hp and 430 ft/lbs torque. It is stated that the 2.7 is GM's new base engine for the half tons and they dropped the 4.3 v6 altogether. Well played GM...but I'd maybe reconsider allowing people to choose that 2.7 in higher trim levels, as I've said before I'd be choked if I was a luxury truck guy and couldn't get this motor...as it stands I'm not a luxury truck guy so this worked out well.

Personally I came back to GM because of this motor and I have always preferred the base trims for a few reasons. 1. Less to go wrong and fix down road and 2. we hunt/fish and generally use the truck for very truck like things, lots of blood soaks in our box, 3. winter roads, salt, gravel...our trucks take a beating...why kill a luxury ride? While I could afford luxury trucks, I've found it wildly uncomfortable doing to them what we do to them lol. I grew up on 4 speed 1 ton decked work trucks lucky to have a radio...all of them are luxury now.

My last GM was a 2013 suburban ltz, lasted one year and I knew I made two key mistakes. 1. Thinking I could do suv with a utility trailer as a box when needed but 2. that 5.3 I so thought was the one to have over the caddy engine...it was worked way too hard in it and it sucked way too much fuel (I live at 4000'). Anyway, I'm back and it's been 260 miles of 'well done gm, keep up the good work' so far.

Edited June 22, 2022 by 4banger

Low Elevation · June 23, 2022

Personally I would lower it at least 2” in the rear.

pepe48134 · June 23, 2022

9 hours ago, ESierra said:

Looks great! I'm using my stock wheels paired with 33 as well. At least now you can use that side step for a real lift iI find the side steps useless when your tall! Hows the over all ride height?

I'm on 34's (275/65R20), Stocks are 33" (275/60R20)

The Height is 2.5 Inches taller than stock. 2 Inch from the suspension and 1/2 Inch from the tires. In the picture there is no lift in the rear other then the tires. It almost exactly level but sometime it looks nose high because of the Silverado front fender body lines. I have some 1.2" rear blocks from the previous gen trucks that I'm going to install just to level it out to the eye a little more.

I parked next to a trail boss the other day and the front of my truck is about 1/2 taller, the rear is about 2" lower as the Trail Boss has a pretty big rake.

Edited June 23, 2022 by pepe48134

ESierra · June 28, 2022

On 6/22/2022 at 2:57 PM, 4banger said:

God that looks good. I just picked up a Chev custom turbo and have 4" ordered. I'm going for a modern highboy look. Mine comes with factory 20's and 33's (275 60r20 with a 255 80r17 spare)...well I've ordered some 17's lightweight with 0 offset (black rhino chase, 25 lbs, factory 20's are 31 lbs) and will be doing Falken at3w 255 80r17's which are likely heavier than stock tire but I need a couple things...snowflake rating and E rated tires are preferred for this outdoorsman as never seem to get flats. As it is for an E rated tire this falken in this size is 52.5 lbs so will likely be a wash on weight to stock when I'm done as I'm gonna save 5-6 lbs per wheel but add it back in the tire. Should keep my acceleration but now I get 8" sidewall instead of 6.5" and 1" less tread width should help in mileage also ride quality and less likely to tear up on curbs. Pizza cutters work better for me. The torque is amazing on this motor, I haven't had mine long, about 260 miles on break-in tank 1 right now but holy does it go down the road easy, and sipping fuel, the 6.2 rental I just dropped off seems like it would rather hit the couch and needs more pedal to keep it motivated forward. I'll post my impressions and differences elsewhere but you and the OP won't be alone in lifting the this 4banger with the spin whistle.

Thats what I'm actually planning as well. Keeping the stock 20" wheels and wrapping them around 33" tires. I don't like the "wide tires" stance on trucks, doesn't fit for me. I'm planning on a 3.5" lift with upgraded struts. I wonder at how much of a mpg hit I'll see. I'm estimating 2MPG less. I'm getting about 23.5 and roughly 450 miles each fill up!

ESierra · June 28, 2022

On 6/21/2022 at 5:54 PM, pepe48134 said:

Nothing extreme but I did a 2" lift with Bilstein 5100's and Nitto 34" Tall 275/65R20 w stock wheels on my 22 refreshed Silverado LT 2.7L. Nitto is the only 34" tire you can get in non Light Truck load and it only weights 4 lbs more than stock LT tires are all 13-18 lbs heaver each and its that unsprung weight that really kills MPG. Fuel economy was not effected in my case and I looks way better than Stock IMO. RIdes better too.

Did you have to get your headlights readjusted after the truck was lifted?