Sqrls Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 3.73 gears in diesel is awesome. Upgraded cooling and drivetrain is great (at 46,000 miles I have drivetrain play but it’s used for work and I work it). Also, on a 95degree day when you’re really working it, it currently detected power some, so the upgraded cooling is needed. I’m really into the upgraded cluster. I kind of dig the new high country look. will probably be upgrading to the new 2022. Edit: Also, definitely like the new bright blue! Edited September 10, 2021 by Sqrls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mawz Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Overall pretty impressive. I like the looks better than the 19-21 models (I never liked the frontend on them, preferring the 16-18 treatment) and with one glaring exception, I love the new interior. The downside? Console shifter. I just really don't want to give up the space of the centre console for a shifter that's a little more 'sporty', but I don't want a bench either. I dig the ZR2 for sure, although I wish they'd revived a different package name for that, the ZR2 should have remained a mid-size specific package (and are we going to get a ZR2 Bison now on the Silverado as the Raptor/TRX competitor?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwngr Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Finally the 3.0L/10spd gets an improved tow rating. 13,300lb about 11:41 of the video. (not that I'd wanna tow that heavy with a 1500) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirForceAngler Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, f8l vnm said: Well looks like same engine output on the 6.2. I have to believe the 5.3 has to get a at least Torque bump. Would they really allow their 5.3 to have less torque then the 2.7? ZR2 is cool, not hating but I wish they would have made it more unique. Little disappointed it has same engine and same body panels as every other model. Really thought GM would bring a blown 6.2 Raptor and TRX fighter. I'd say, why even offer the 5.3? Especially if the 6.2 gets the same or better mileage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade8971 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 The new 2022's look good all around, but I don't see enough to warrant trading my current 2020 TB for one. I wished they did more with the ZR2 as its basically a highly spec'd LT Trail Boss with some specific off-rood goodies but the same 6.2L engine. Should of have a unique high output engine option like that of the TRX and Raptor. We'll see how well the 2022's do where it counts - vehicle sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilveradoRST Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I’m liking the screens, glad it wasn’t like the Tahoe/Suburban design. I couldn’t care less for the console shifter. Looks a bit like the 2018+ Traverse console arrangement styling. I wonder if the 2500/3500 are going to get a similar interior update next model year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN2018 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 As a few others have said, nice, but nothing that would make me want to trade my 21 in for and nothing that makes me wish I would have waited. Also, the shifter looks cool, but as far as I can see, it took the place of the driver’s cup holder. Not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeagnt54 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 3 hours ago, redwngr said: Finally the 3.0L/10spd gets an improved tow rating. 13,300lb about 11:41 of the video. (not that I'd wanna tow that heavy with a 1500) I wonder if they changed anything to get that rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond817 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 hours ago, AirForceAngler said: I'd say, why even offer the 5.3? Especially if the 6.2 gets the same or better mileage? Because the 6.2 requires premium fuel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqrls Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6.2 or not, the zr2 is less capable as a truck than a Nissan nv200 which has higher payload. 1400 lb payload is ridiculously low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirForceAngler Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Diamond817 said: Because the 6.2 requires premium fuel. No it doesn't. It's recommended, not required. But with the output of the new 2.7 and the 6.2, there's no need for the 5.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mawz Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sqrls said: 6.2 or not, the zr2 is less capable as a truck than a Nissan nv200 which has higher payload. 1400 lb payload is ridiculously low. No, 1400lbs is not ridiculously low. It’s on par with a a similarly optioned F-150 Tremor or Ram Rebel, or for that matter a fully optioned up Titan Pro4X (based on door stickers posted in the Titan forums, they range from 1598 to as low as 1398, which is lowest in class) The nominal published payload for these vehicles is always at minimum trim, because optioning up adds weight surprisingly quickly and that costs payload. Plenty of threads out there demonstrating that the actual payload on the door sticker is usually lower than the published spec. The ZR2 according to TTLTruck doesn’t really have options other than tailgate choice and colour. The media one they were looking at was 1400lbs, and had the Multipro tailgate which would be the heavy config. Also I doubt the ZR2 is less capable than a Titan Pro4X. Particularly since the ZR2 has a front locker and better approach and departure angles. Edited September 10, 2021 by Mawz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wanderer Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, AirForceAngler said: No it doesn't. It's recommended, not required. But with the output of the new 2.7 and the 6.2, there's no need for the 5.3. The 5.3 still has more power, willing to bet it tows more and has better performance on the highway. Some people still prefer the sound and linear acceleration of a N/A v8, Ford keeps their 5.0 for the same reason even though their turbo lineup has better numbers. I find the 2.7 very interesting and would look hard at it but it's mated to the crummy 8 speed, and I'm not sure yet how well it would stand up to frequent heavy towing. The 5.3 is rock solid at this point (lifter issue notwithstanding). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangly Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Sqrls said: 6.2 or not, the zr2 is less capable as a truck than a Nissan nv200 which has higher payload. 1400 lb payload is ridiculously low. When a full size Nissan comes with front and rear selectable lockers, and Multimatic DSSV shocks, then we can talk about capability. Until then, Nissan can stay in the bottom of the barrel where it belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amcguy1970 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, AirForceAngler said: I'd say, why even offer the 5.3? Especially if the 6.2 gets the same or better mileage? Because it doesn't, not sure how that rumor started. Both ratings and testing show otherwise, plus you need premium to get that rated number, many truck buyers balk at that, as do I. A truck engine shouldn't need to be stressed to need premium, that is not how comfortable longevity is accomplished. If it is high strung where premium is best served then it should be in more special and higher performance models. The 2.7 I am glad they were able to get it at the numbers on regular (the current gen at least, does this new one also just need regular with the torque bump?). Not sure all the hate on the ZR2, why would they go after a saturated low selling market? The Raptor only sells less than 10% in terms of percent of F150 sales (this is hard to pinpoint but seems to be the general consensus), I keep seeing around 50k annually. Add in the TRX which will sell even less so why go through all that development and expense for a marginal return? Why not go after an untapped market? This is basically a Power Wagon for the light duty market. More back country than desert. A better over lander (over landing is so hot right now) that can get through the trails better and up that fire road with more payload and towing. They did this right and it was well called out in advance from test shots to seeing what the current ZR2 Colorado brought to the table; it can still handle some jumps and higher speeds but is a great middle of the road jack of all trades suspension. Although I like some of the goodies making it a box checker model with leather cooled/heated seats and all the goodies alienates the crowd that actually could use and want this truck, instead it caters to the suburban crowd where payload matter less than the look at me what if factor. They should have started at an LT package and made the others optional as those who are going to get it dirty and put it to work most likely aren't wanting the neutered payload and fancy interior options that can get dirty or damaged in most cases. A few hundred add pounds of payload and towing closer to 10k would leave a better buffer with some of the luxuries removed... Either way it is nice they brought it out and glad they aren't trying to go after a sliver of a market. Same goes with the Blazer as a Wrangler/Bronco competitor, the numbers aren't there and they would/do sell more going after a larger more defined market. The Bronco won't reach the Wrangler sales numbers once the excitement dies down in a few years, you can see that with the Gladiator and a TRX/Raptor competitor wouldn't have either, this will get the most sales and take a slightly different approach to a more well asked question as desert running is much smaller than back country off roading on trails. Tyler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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