5.3 vs 3.0 diesel

[redwngr]

On 7/27/2021 at 6:35 PM, Wiggums said:

The 5.3 V8 was discounted by $10,000 so it was a no-brainer for me. Now the dealers are no longer discounting them, it's making my decision a bit harder. I get around 25 mpg on my 5.3 V8 (best I've gotten was 28 but that was going 50-55 mph all the way on a flat surface).

 

If I can get a Duramax for less than $2,000 more, I'd consider it, because that's how much I'd save in gas mileage after 60,000 miles. Right now, I get $6,000 off for gasoline and nothing off for diesel so I'll stick with gasoline for now.

When they introduced the 3.0 it was the same upcharge (over the 5.3) as the 6.2

They have since changed the upcharge for the 3.0 to about 1/2 of the upcharge for the 6.2.

 

Of course all this depends on the trim being one that has all 3 available.

[Grumpy Bear]

40 minutes ago, redwngr said:

When they introduced the 3.0 it was the same upcharge (over the 5.3) as the 6.2

They have since changed the upcharge for the 3.0 to about 1/2 of the upcharge for the 6.2.

 

Of course all this depends on the trim being one that has all 3 available.

 

Are you saying the LV3 is not available in ANY pickup now? Or just the AT?

[Dirk13]

16 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Are you saying the LV3 is not available in ANY pickup now? Or just the AT?

WT and Custom trail boss in 2021

[Grumpy Bear]

10 minutes ago, Dirk13 said:

WT and Custom trail boss in 2021

Scared me for a minute. Awesome motor. Thanks! 

[OnTheReel]

41 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Scared me for a minute. Awesome motor. Thanks! 

Next year’s order guide is online. 4.3 is dead for 2022, so is the AFM 5.3, and so is the 6 speed trans.

 

2.7 / 8 speed is the new base powertrain with the DFM 5.3 8 speed as an option in the WT.

 

 

[redwngr]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Are you saying the LV3 is not available in ANY pickup now? Or just the AT?

Post info was from 2022 order guide.

Shows LV3 and L82 as gone for all trims for both chev and gmc.

 

Leaves the

L3B 2.7T

L84 5.3L  (this is the DFM version, the L82 AFM version that was used on lower trims is now gone)

L87 6.2L

LM2 3.0L

 

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by redwngr

[Dirk13]

That’s all for the 2022 Limited/LTD trucks. What the eventually updated ‘22.5 or ‘23 trucks will have available is anyone’s guess. Unless I missed some press release that said they are dropping the v6

[OnTheReel]

No reason to think they would bring them back for 2022.5. Those particular combos aren’t remotely competitive anymore, especially the 4.3 6 speed. I mean, Ford’s standard transmission has FOUR more gears! Even the Ram gets 8.
 

Sure, you can argue if 8 or 10 speeds are really needed. But Joe Customer is just going to see an overhead valve V6, 6 speed combo for the dinosaur it is.

[f8l vnm]

1 hour ago, OnTheReel said:

Sure, you can argue if 8 or 10 speeds are really needed. But Joe Customer is just going to see an overhead valve V6, 6 speed combo for the dinosaur it is.

Yep nailed it on the head.  

[ratman6161]

On 7/28/2021 at 6:48 AM, steve841 said:

 

 

I was down to around 10% and oil change was due ... Just did it all at the same time.

FWIW, my trucks life is 95% towing.  I'd imaging that has a lot to do with it.

To add a real life experience.  I do a regular weekend trip towing an enclosed trailer roughly 240 round trip.

On my prior 6.2, I'd have to fill up with about 50 miles remaining on the last leg.

With the 3.0, I make it there and back and have, on average, 1/4 of a tank left.

Again, that's real world comparison.  And in my opinion, enough to settle any debate for me.

Sure, if I towed 95% of the time, the diesel would be a no brainer.  Personally though, I tow maybe 10% or 15% of the time and part of that is a snowmobile trailer that's only around 2600 pounds loaded (rest is a 6000 pounds loaded travel trailer).  Besides, my 6.2L is fun when not towing:).  I've only had it long enough to get past the 500 mile break in, but I've already seen 22 MPG.  For reference, most of my driving these days is on rural two lanes.  Also premium is just recommended, not required.  Did I mention its fun? I'm retired so I don't have some silly job I have to get to...:)

[jnissen]

My 3.0L gets used a lot for towing. I think over half the miles I have are tow miles. While towing I can get from 15 to 18MPG depending on my load. When not towing it has great mileage from 25 to a bit over 30 typical with high of 38MPG.  I'm totally impressed with this combo of the diesel and the 10 speed. I don't think it ever revs past 3K RPM even when working hard. Just a very good combination.

Edited July 30, 2021 by jnissen

[Madeindetroit92]

thank you guys. I really appreciate all this great information. looks like wont be getting one till 2022, every dealer I call either they are out of diesel or they got the loaded 6.2 ($75K). you guys know when this chip shortage is going to end?

thank you again.

if you guys know any dealer in michigan got 3.0 diesel AT4 put their info please.