Looking at Taking my ATs off and Getting a Good Set of All Weather Tires

[Ravenkeeper]

I'm looking at taking my All Terrains off and installing All Weathers.  I'm going to keep my ATs and put them on a second set of wheels, for when I do go off-roading.

 

Looking for suggestions.

Edited May 6, 2021 by Ravenkeeper

[Black02Silverado]

It has been my experience that the Michelin Defenders are a great tire.  Quiet, long lasting and great all weather performance.  I had the older version on my 2002 the LTX MS2's and got 75k miles out of them.  The set of Defenders on our 2016 Suburban are wearing great and quiet after 30k miles on them so far.

[Ravenkeeper]

On 5/6/2021 at 3:53 AM, Black02Silverado said:

It has been my experience that the Michelin Defenders are a great tire.  Quiet, long lasting and great all weather performance.  I had the older version on my 2002 the LTX MS2's and got 75k miles out of them.  The set of Defenders on our 2016 Suburban are wearing great and quiet after 30k miles on them so far.

I have GY Wrangler DuraTrac's with 33K, almost 34K, they're the original tires from when I purchased the truck.  I feel like I can feel the treads at slow speeds, like you can with "knobies."  But, yeah, these have lasted almost 3 years and 33K+.  About 100 miles is NOT pavement. 

[djw88]

i have Wrangler Fortitude HT and am extremely happy with them

 

[truckguy82]

Sumitomo encounter ht (spelling)

Just looked for the cheapest one with the best reviews. Apparently it’s a rebranded falken.

 

Love it. All season tire that Slightly more aggressive than most all season tires. On my truck they just look like normal all season tires. When I bought a set for my wifes acura suv, looks like she’s ready for an expedition into the woods. 

 

lasts forever, great traction in wet and snow, slightly more road noise than most passenger car all seasons, but that’s the only downside (i couldnt tell until I drove my wifes car)

 

Very cheap. Have had them on for a couple years still look brand new. Will be buying them for a long time to come.

 

 

 

[Ravenkeeper]

ODDLY, my spare (under the bed) is a street tire. 

[Diamond817]

The Michelin Defender LTX MS can't be beat. I even have them on my Silverado in 275/50R22.

[truckguy82]

10 hours ago, Diamond817 said:

The Michelin Defender LTX MS can't be beat. I even have them on my Silverado in 275/50R22.

The ones I posted crushes them in value

[Diamond817]

3 hours ago, truckguy82 said:

The ones I posted crushes them in value

How? You paid less for  lesser quality Japanese rubber. Did you ever own Michelin LTX M/S's?

Edited May 18, 2021 by Diamond817

[truckguy82]

1 hour ago, Diamond817 said:

How? You paid less for  lesser quality Japanese rubber. Did you ever own Michelin LTX M/S's?

Nope, and you have never owned mine.

 

I have had Michelin defenders, several years ago, not the m/s specifically. But like most people I’ve owned a wide range of tires from other high quality brands. A good truck tire just works in a wide array of conditions, and it works for a long time.

 

normally you get what you pay for, but not with the sumitomos. I’d be happy with their performance if they costed as much as the defenders.

 

best of all, you don’t need to take my word for it, read the reviews

[Diamond817]

11 hours ago, truckguy82 said:

Nope, and you have never owned mine.

 

I have had Michelin defenders, several years ago, not the m/s specifically. But like most people I’ve owned a wide range of tires from other high quality brands. A good truck tire just works in a wide array of conditions, and it works for a long time.

 

normally you get what you pay for, but not with the sumitomos. I’d be happy with their performance if they costed as much as the defenders.

 

best of all, you don’t need to take my word for it, read the reviews

The prices on the same sizes are about $20 more for the Michelins per tire. So that's about $80- $100 more for American rubber vs cheap Japanese rubber. The cheap Japanese rubber should be at least $50 per tire cheaper. So, the better value is Michelin. 

 

And no, I never owned cheap Japanese rubber. Never will. I don't care what the questionable reviews say.

 

[truckguy82]

5 hours ago, Diamond817 said:

The prices on the same sizes are about $20 more for the Michelins per tire. So that's about $80- $100 more for American rubber vs cheap Japanese rubber. The cheap Japanese rubber should be at least $50 per tire cheaper. So, the better value is Michelin. 

 

And no, I never owned cheap Japanese rubber. Never will. I don't care what the questionable reviews say.

 

Oh if thats all it is yeah i’d probably go Michelin too. It was about $50-100/cheaper a tire when I bought mine.

 

Rofl at cheap japanese rubber. You know someone is incredibly ignorant when they make a statement like that. As if you have any comprehension of a the supply chain for these massive companies and where they source their rubber. As if you have any comprehension of where the money is actually going. For all you know a few cattle farmers in texas are the majority share holders of sumitomo and michele is owned by a japanese guy.

 

this is on top of the hilarious fact that sumitomo has a factory in new york

 

and this is despite the fact, that most of the things japan produces is higher quality than the us produces. It’s part of their culture there. It’s why their cars are more reliable.

 

but hey, keep thinking you know what you’re doing by using your hard earned money (judging by the ignorance, I think we can safely assume poorly educated and it was definitely hard earned) and don’t spend it on whats best for you, spend it on the brand name that doesn’t sound like some squinty eyed people made it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by truckguy82

[djw88]

6 hours ago, Diamond817 said:

The prices on the same sizes are about $20 more for the Michelins per tire. So that's about $80- $100 more for American rubber vs cheap Japanese rubber. The cheap Japanese rubber should be at least $50 per tire cheaper. So, the better value is Michelin. 

 

And no, I never owned cheap Japanese rubber. Never will. I don't care what the questionable reviews say.

 

what is the matter with you? japan has amazing quality, some of the best in the world. are you thinking china?

 

oh and Michelin is French...

Edited May 19, 2021 by djw88

[jw63]

Michelin Defender LTX can't be beat for value/quality.  I would never purchase a Sumitomo for any vehicle I was intending on using and keeping...had them before and they are junk...cheap, but junk.

[truckguy82]

21 hours ago, jw63 said:

Michelin Defender LTX can't be beat for value/quality.  I would never purchase a Sumitomo for any vehicle I was intending on using and keeping...had them before and they are junk...cheap, but junk.

Ah, well fortunately there are hundreds of reviews from people that used those actual tires and we don’t have to listen to people who base all products a large company produces off of one bad experience at some point in time.

 

Craftsman tools must be great too, because I had a great experience with my ratchet set from 1980.