Grumpy Bear's All-Encompassing 2019/2020 GM Truck Hatred Thread

[BIGDOGx]

12 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

I think a lot of people here forget about this unicorn...

 

 

And the fact it was ripping apart v8's from not just american made cars back in the early 90's but much of what europe had on the road at the time.

[mafd2]

5 minutes ago, xSHIFTxNASTYx said:

At least Grumpy has class. You, on the other hand, don't. "Go play in traffic"? Really? Grow up.

Ahhh I see. Class? Grow up? Hmm... I wouldn't have time to gather up all his stupid posts and comments. Apparently you haven't read them.  Making comments about my mother?  Yep, real class. And some things I see him post about others.  Maybe not intentional but he slips up lol. The list goes on. But anyway, it's all good though bud. No worries. Be safe.

[Grumpy Bear]

4 hours ago, mafd2 said:

Ahhh I see. Class? Grow up? Hmm... I wouldn't have time to gather up all his stupid posts and comments. Apparently you haven't read them.  Making comments about my mother?  Yep, real class. And some things I see him post about others.  Maybe not intentional but he slips up lol. The list goes on. But anyway, it's all good though bud. No worries. Be safe.

 

You take the time Mister. 

What comment did I make about your mother? 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Grumpy Bear

[kwOH]

Your mama so dumb, she uses valvoline!

[Duramax3oh]

54 minutes ago, kwOH said:

Your mama so dumb, she uses valvoline!

Yo mama so slow that when she tried to cross the road she got a parking ticket.

[kwOH]

Yo mama so slow that when she tried to cross the road she got a parking ticket.

“Duramax3slow’s Yo Mama Jokes Thread”

[Duramax3oh]

19 minutes ago, kwOH said:

“Duramax3slow’s Yo Mama Jokes Thread”

“Duramax3pointslow” 

[Philipgonzales3]

7 hours ago, BIGDOGx said:

Hell I have the 6.2 and i can barely hear it running over the clickety clack of the injectors firing lol, the stock gm exhaust is just so terrible but i just don't want to blow money on an exhaust when the one i got is fine.

 

OP made the post in honor of the person with the v-6 lol...

This!  I have the 6.2L and the damn thing sounds like a Prius with the stock exhaust.  Not really even sure how a Prius sounds but it's the first thing I think of when I hear my truck...or rather don't hear it lol.  

 

Had a black widow venom 250 muffler on my '19 5.3L z71 but the damn 8-speed drove me to my 2020 6.2L 10-speed RST Z71. I'm thinking going with the Borla S-type or Atak.  Unfortunately probably won't be for a while as we are saving for a house at the moment.  Tempted to just do a muffler swap in and call it a day but tempted to hold out for a full catback setup to see what it is like.  

[Grumpy Bear]

4 hours ago, mafd2 said:

Ahhh I see. Class? Grow up? Hmm... I wouldn't have time to gather up all his stupid posts and comments. Apparently you haven't read them.  Making comments about my mother?  Yep, real class. And some things I see him post about others.  Maybe not intentional but he slips up lol. The list goes on. But anyway, it's all good though bud. No worries. Be safe.

 

3 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

You take the time Mister. 

What comment did I make about your mother? 

About what I thought.

Just make' n crap up. 

Ya can't find what I didn't say bout your mama.

 

What I did say was in the form of a question about YOU

Quote:

"You kiss your mother with that mouth"

 

Your best shot is a lie? 

Wash your mouth out with soap! 

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Grumpy Bear

[f8l vnm]

10 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

About what I thought.

Just make' n crap up. 

Ya can't find what I didn't say bout your mama.

 

What I did say was in the form of a question about YOU

Quote:

"You kiss your mother with that mouth"

 

Your best shot is a lie? 

Time to take out the dentures and call it a night Grumpy sir, We can BS tomorrow again about how superior you 4.3 Dog is. 

[kwOH]

“Duramax3pointslow” 

Guess what...............?

[mafd2]

26 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

About what I thought.

Just make' n crap up. 

Ya can't find what I didn't say bout your mama.

 

What I did say was in the form of a question about YOU

Quote:

"You kiss your mother with that mouth"

 

Your best shot is a lie? 

Wash your mouth out with soap! 

 

Oh so you remembered . No biggie. It's all good bud. Wish I could kiss my mother but she is deceased. 

[econometrics]

[flyingfool]

11 hours ago, mafd2 said:

A V6? Nauseous and terrible... Sounds like sh*t, always has, always will.  It's the nature of the beast. It is what it is... Yep, I'd spend the extra money just to not hear that godly awful sound .

i would say there are some nice sounding Japanese, and european v6 motors. good sounding v6 is part of the crank design and the muffler tuning. the new BMW's and Dodge cars are god awfull with open exhaust.. i think cylinder deactivation is whats really making it worse.  But all the work GM put into the new pushrod v6, it is really impressive hot rod motor if you know what your looking at and sat down and studied the engineering that went into these motors.

[Grumpy Bear]

11 hours ago, f8l vnm said:

Time to take out the dentures and call it a night Grumpy sir, We can BS tomorrow again about how superior you 4.3 Dog is. 

Ya know f8l I'll put up with near anything and it's water off a ducks back. But the line is drawn when people lie and distort the truth, as mafd2 did. His purpose was to discredit a persons reputation with impunity. And for what. To make his opinion stand tall. I have zero use for such people. If they will lie about you for gain they will lie to you for less. To the box with him. He didn't make a mistake, he made a choice. 

 

Now lets get to your statement. The part that I will address is, " how superior you 4.3 Dog is." I'm sure you meant 'your' dog.  I do that one all the time. Anyway. You have two things as wrong as they can be in the same sentence and you only had a choice of six words. 

 

Superior, meaning you think I believe it is superior to be clear. Wrong if you mean that categorically and I'm guessing you are. But what I would argue is that it can be so situationally. In the same way a fly swatter is a superior choice to kill a fly on your knee than a cannon. No rational argument can be made other. Now to your second point of error. 

 

Dog. Lets give that a look.

 

The 4.3 puts up 285 hp and does so from 262 cubic inches or 1.1 hp per cubic inch. 

The 5.3 puts up 355 hp and does so from 323 cubic inches or 1.1 hp per cubic inch.

The 6.2 puts up 420 hp and does so from 378 cubic inches or 1.1 hp per cubic inch. 

 

Power DENSITY defines the state of 'DOG', not ultimate power. 

 

Looks like all that dogs in that pack have the same parents. Again situational. The entire point of a drive line choice is to match the power required to the power needed. 

 

Now let's look at the two stray pups in the liter. 

 

The 2.7 puts up 310 hp from and does so from 165 cubic inches or 1.9 hp per cubic inch

The 3.0 puts up 277 hp from and does so from 183 cubic inches or 1.5 hp per cubic inch 

 

Looks like NA motors are the DOGS. 

 

Now let's talk torque and just consider the 6.2 and the 3.0. After all torque when towing matters more than hp. 

 

3.0 torque is 460 lb/ft @ 1,500 rpm

6.2 torque is 460 lb/ft @ 3,000 rpm

 

Let's see the beloved 6.2 All American V8 out torque band this puny dog of a motor 6 cylinder.

 

Personally I can't wait for Gale  Banks to get hold of this motor.

 

 

How about I continue with fuel usage under load or best BSFC. 

Or how about you just read it:

Spoiler alert 35% fuel conversion for the 'doggy 6'.

 

https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-10/documents/2016-01-0662-fuel-eff-map-2014-6cyl-gm-eco-tec-4.3l-eng-cyl-deac_0.pdf

 

I wish they would offer the LV1 version of the Ecotec3 4.3 in a RCSB with the six speed. 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Grumpy Bear