6inch lift to a 4

[topgear1224]

They use a spacer on top of the strut instead of a coil over. Spacer below and to the side of each rear shock.

yes and no

the lift is achieved through the drop brackets for the cross members

those spacers you are talking about don't actually lift the truck they just make sure that the strut can reach the OE mounting location

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[BetaX]

6 minutes ago, topgear1224 said:

These are the same kit.
The AT4 is 2 inches high from factory so they have to advertise only a 4 inch lift.

You need to locate a 4in kit that has the u shaped members. You will then need to compare the instructions to rough country to see if the frame modifications are the same.

the other option is to take it to an off-road shop and tell them that you don't like the lift in that it's too high and see how much they want to charge you. To keep their liability to a minimum they will find you a 4-inch bracket kit.

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Those are NOT the same kits!

 

The spacer (Edit: Above the strut, not the cross member) is going to be a different height as it has to compensate for the factory 2" kit.

Edited July 1, 2020 by BetaX

[BetaX]

3 minutes ago, topgear1224 said:

yes and no

the lift is achieved through the drop brackets for the cross members

those spacers you are talking about don't actually lift the truck they just make sure that the strut can reach the OE mounting location

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Yes I'm aware how the lift works.

If you remove the 6" spacer above the strut, and put a 4" spacer above the strut, the truck WILL LOWER. As a result your control arms will angle up as if you lowered your stock truck. 

[topgear1224]

Those are NOT the same kits!
 
The spacer (Edit: Above the strut, not the cross member) is going to be a different height as it has to compensate for the factory 2" kit.

the OP was thinking it was a 4 inch lift instead of a 6 inch lift.

both have upper and lower strut spacers and the pictures, I think we can both agree, are exactly the same. (Who wants to make millions and sue them for false advertising [emoji23][emoji23])

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3 minutes ago, topgear1224 said:

the OP was thinking it was a 4 inch lift instead of a 6 inch lift.

both have upper and lower strut spacers and the pictures, I think we can both agree, are exactly the same. (Who wants to make millions and sue them for false advertising )

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They aren't the same. The spacer height will have to be different above the strut due to the factory TB/AT4 stock lift. They aren't replacing the strut assembly so they have to compensate for that with the spacer.

End result (i.e. 6" over a base 4x4 truck), yes is the same.

The cross member and many of the parts are probably the same but they are different kits. 

Edited July 1, 2020 by BetaX

[topgear1224]

Yes I'm aware how the lift works.
If you remove the 6" spacer above the strut, and put a 4" spacer above the strut, the truck WILL LOWER. As a result your control arms will angle up as if you lowered your stock truck. 

And your CV angles will be destroyed. Full droop will destroy your shocks (I believe this is one of the kids that actually has you remove your stock droop limiter) and aligning it's going to be a total nightmare because it's going to be like aligning a lowered truck but then it has all this extra downward travel in an arc.

the steering angle is coming off of the steering rods are going to be all jacked up here going to get bump steer hell. (Since the knuckles move the steering further up from the axle, allowing them to not have to drop the steering rack)

Could it work?? sure, is Op probably going to hate the truck forever? Yep!

Oh and good luck selling it like that.

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5 minutes ago, topgear1224 said:

And your CV angles will be destroyed. Full droop will destroy your shocks (I believe this is one of the kids that actually has you remove your stock droop limiter) and aligning it's going to be a total nightmare because it's going to be like aligning a lowered truck but then it has all this extra downward travel in an arc.

the steering angle is coming off of the steering rods are going to be all jacked up here going to get bump steer hell. (Since the knuckles move the steering further up from the axle, allowing them to not have to drop the steering rack)

Could it work?? sure, is Op probably going to hate the truck forever? Yep!

Oh and good luck selling it like that.

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In theory, it should function no different than a lowered truck. Now if the aftermarket components work in harmony or not, that's another story and where a (good) suspension shop is needed.

 

What i don't know is if the Rough country provides a full 6" cross member drop or a 4" and then act as if they have a 2" leveling kit via the spacer above the strut to get the 6" that was the popular thing to do in recent years by the suspension companies.

Edited July 1, 2020 by BetaX

[Christian P]

Thanks everyone.. will be going to the local shop to see if they can help me lower I guess! 

[topgear1224]

In theory, it should function no different than a lowered truck. Now if the aftermarket components work in harmony or not, that's another story and where a (good) suspension shop is needed.

 

What i don't know is if the Rough country provides a full 6" cross member drop or a 4" and then act as if they have a 2" leveling kit via the spacer above the strut to get the 6" that was the popular thing to do in recent years by the suspension companies.

It's a 6 with a "high clearance crossmember" meaning it's arched.

 

The extended knuckle is where the real problems will be.

 

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