What oil and filter do you run?

OnTheReel · June 28, 2020

7 hours ago, madconcept said:

I’ve always felt that sticking with the regular oil(whatever the manufacturer recommends) is more than adequate.

Like for real everything around the engine while fail a lot sooner than the engine internals.

When an engine finally packs it in around 300,000-400,000 km I would rather be in something newer anyways.

Overspending on expensive oil and changing it when it’s only at 50% of its life is a waste of money in my opinion.

Yup.

No maintenance you can do to the fancy electronics and brake by wire system that will turn all of these trucks to expensive bricks in 15 years. Just the way it is now.

Think about how many vehicles run and drive themselves to the junkyard. By and large, engines should be the least of anyone’s worries long term, but I guess it’s the low hanging fruit to focus on.

TXGREEK · June 29, 2020

Yup.

No maintenance you can do to the fancy electronics and brake by wire system that will turn all of these trucks to expensive bricks in 15 years. Just the way it is now.

Think about how many vehicles run and drive themselves to the junkyard. By and large, engines should be the least of anyone’s worries long term, but I guess it’s the low hanging fruit to focus on.

Totally false, you’re very misinformed! These trucks are designed for hauling, pulling and off-roading adding fuel economy thanks to the epa. I’ve seen these trucks easily run 150k - 300k and that with proper maintenance but if you or anyone else is going into purchasing and then running them into the ground well then that’s your doing. I for one take excellent care of everything I own and will never think of something as soon to be scrapped. This is the prime example as to why I’ll never buy used, this theory is an excuse as to not spend money on maintenance only later blaming the manufacturers.

Never understood why anyone would buy a $50k+ vehicle and later only afford Walmart oil. It’s like buying a Scar17S or an LWRC REPR only to put on a $150 scope and run cheap steel ammunition.

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TXGREEK · June 29, 2020

My lifted truck has over 36k well driven miles on it, I’ve towed, hauled, pulled and very often off-roading. I do 4-5K OCI’s, 15k front and rear differential fluid changes, 15k transfer case fluid change, change engine air filter every 15k miles, only run Pwemium fuel, fuel treatments every other tank and have complete confidence that this truck “WILL” take me to Hell and back, never been in the shop with any engine related issues and all I use is Amsoil products.

I even pour 1/4 bottle of Amsoil SS in my wife’s new BMWX5 after each oil change, purrs like a kitten.

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Grumpy Bear · June 29, 2020

4 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Thanks for the analysis Marty. A lot of this is Greek to me but after reading it a few times is starting to make sense. I did not find anything on that link that showed chain length or maybe didn't click in the right places but did find those numbers that matched those from the sheet.

So how would you compare this oil to plain old Mobil One?

My observations are that this ACDelco oil makes the engine quieter at start up and running and slightly more fuel efficient too. After two oil changes and 12K miles an oil sample showed better wear numbers and oil performance compared with the old regular M1.

Substance Name: Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated heavy paraffinic
RN: 64742-54-7

Note

TSCA Definition 2019: A complex combination of hydrocarbons obtained by treating a petroleum fraction with hydrogen in the presence of a catalyst. It consists of hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly in the range of C20 through C50 and produces a finished oil of at least 100 SUS at 100.degree.F (19cSt at 40.degree.C). It contains a relatively large proportion of saturated hydrocarbons.
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The part in red is the carbon number. It was on the lower link.

Which one is better? From what current data I have? Who knows. Seriously. If you really what to know. I mean really want to know your going to have to submit samples of each of a current traceable batch for VOA. That will give you physicals and additive chemistry. Then you will have to get a current MSDS for THAT batch and how to do that is any ones guess. Exxon/Mobil has the contract and Phillips just released this year new MSDS for the same products. I use to have a contact inside Phillips but they have sewed his lips shut. I've know this guy over 20 years and and not a peep. There's some dark stuff.

https://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/results.aspx?LanguageFilter=EN&MSDSTypeFilter=USDS&SearchValue=dexos

Check out the Phillips NexGen recycled oil being bottled as AC Delco Dexos 1 5W30

Their words not mine.

Red Line is on that list of Phillips products. But just Professional Series. Hummmmmm.

What a cluster..........

This is my reason for not using any of these products.

"Here, take this".

"What is it"?

"Trade Secret but trust me, it's good for you".

"Is it ZANTAC"?

"Trade secret and FDA approved"