6.2L or Baby Duramax

gearheadesw · May 9, 2020

13 hours ago, topgear1224 said:

My 03 2500hd only weighs 1k more full of fuel than my 2020 1500 and pulled the GCWR fine.

What 3/4 ton do you own that weighs 8k empty? For reference a 2019 F-450 4x4 crew cab long bed weighs 8,500lbs curb.

Don't forget the new Chevy 1500 trucks don't have blocks underneath their springs, so are much more stable laterally under load.

I will state again if your load is pulling you around YOU did not load the trailer properly.

Either too much or, if the trailer is whipping you around, too little tongue weight. You also need all axles handling the load that's why weight distribution on the trailer is key.

***Handling issues while Towing is almost always (at least with leaf sprung trucks) set up related.

-You have match the hitch height to the level tongue height of your loaded trailer.

-You have to drive over the scales empty and loaded to ensure you have the proper tongue weight (10-15% on bumper pull) you should also check individual tire weights on the scale as well. You also need per axle weights empty and loaded to ensure your front axle is not being excessively unloaded by the trailer, and that all your axles are taking the load.

from there you set up your weight distribution.

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I towed 5600 lb with a 1996 Ford ranger 4.0 4x4 (3700 curb) PHX to Nashville. that load did not pull me around at all. the truck was actually incredibly stable, it squatted quite a bit (no air assist) but it was incredibly stable. Proper setup goes a LONG way.

Don't forget the new trucks are rated to the SAE J2807 standard, which includes a handling test for understeer and sway at GCWR.

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Tow with what you want, telling you my experiences. If you think your 1/2 ton can compare to my 3/4 ton towing, well, have a nice day.....If you're new at towing, telling me how to load my trailer....yeah, go tow with your 1/2 ton.

bshort · May 9, 2020

4 hours ago, gearheadesw said:

Tow with what you want, telling you my experiences. If you think your 1/2 ton can compare to my 3/4 ton towing, well, have a nice day.....If you're new at towing, telling me how to load my trailer....yeah, go tow with your 1/2 ton.

Went from a 16 2500 6.6 to a 19 1500 6.2. Tows my TT just as good, but the HD diesel guys just can't seem to comprehend that.

Jav_eee · May 9, 2020

Went from a 16 2500 6.6 to a 19 1500 6.2. Tows my TT just as good, but the HD diesel guys just can't seem to comprehend that.

Gotta justify the expensive one way or another..

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topgear1224 · May 9, 2020

Tow with what you want, telling you my experiences. If you think your 1/2 ton can compare to my 3/4 ton towing, well, have a nice day.....If you're new at towing, telling me how to load my trailer....yeah, go tow with your 1/2 ton.

Oh yeah, if we're talkin gmt400 and gmt800 era half tons. (Pre j-2807) Those trucks maxed out were scary. Because there was no standard.

Have you gotten a chance to drive a 2020 6.2 RST extended cab max tow? With a correctly setup trailer it will surprise you. Perfect for the guy that needs an all rounder, and needs a comfortable commuter/family car.

New 6.6/6speed 2500hd is only rated at 1,100lbs more.
You get 4 more pound feet of torque with the 6.6, but 59hp less and only 6 speeds. They also ride like trash unloaded compared to a 1500.

I'm not saying that there's not a place in the market for the 3/4 ton, hell I own one of the very best gasser combos EVER made. but for the guy that daily drives his truck and takes his, let's be realistic, 10,000 pound trailer out camping three times a year. The 1/2 tons are a better option for that guy.

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