Covid19 Spare time

customboss · January 31, 2022

56 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I’m reading, experiencing, as live witnessing things with Covid that defies the experts claims. Then there’s the Covid dashboards as far as rates of infections and deaths. Also there’s questions of deaths with or from Covid. Everything is balancing out between the extreme cautious and reasonable as far as how states and countries are handling Covid. Then there’s the old standbys. Who’s getting paid. Those vaccines are a real money maker, therapeutics not so much. I got Covid. Felt like a bad cold. A few days later my wife who’s more at risk for a bad outcome. Got a sore throat and lost taste, very mild. I had a house full for two days. Even my 83 year old mother in-law, who I picked up and took home. One day before my symptoms. No one got it. Yes I got the shots, my wife passed on it. Im reading, hearing the anti body last two years. Im going with that. The rest can debate. I said my piece.

KARNUT, respect your opinion and observations as always.

900,000 Americans have died from this stuff. 2000 a day still.

Virus's replicate and mutate fast, especially if most of the world isn't vaxxed so we get that effect here.

When 1/3 of US refuses to follow medical public health guidance its almost a circular firing squad on the effect. To turn back and blame health experts who are doing the best they can is a sad state of ability to discern and trust those who would help the population.

Spanish Flu 1918-19 killed 675000 US citizens. You'd think we'd do better 100+ years later right?

It begs the question of what happens next iteration of a virus thats more lethal for the US?

I won't argue because I agree with you about stakeholders and profits. I do ask why do/would people who distrust vaccines trust off the shelf remedies and therapeutics at the same time with absolutely layman's knowledge of both.

At some point we have to trust someone smarter than we are. If not and cards are not on your side you die from this stuff.

Grumpy Bear · January 31, 2022

4 minutes ago, customboss said:

I do ask why do/would people who distrust vaccines trust off the shelf remedies and therapeutics at the same time with absolutely layman's knowledge of both.

Now there's a question worth the asking.

KARNUT · January 31, 2022

11 minutes ago, customboss said:

KARNUT, respect your opinion and observations as always.

900,000 Americans have died from this stuff. 2000 a day still.

Virus's replicate and mutate fast, especially if most of the world isn't vaxxed so we get that effect here.

When 1/3 of US refuses to follow medical public health guidance its almost a circular firing squad on the effect. To turn back and blame health experts who are doing the best they can is a sad state of ability to discern and trust those who would help the population.

Spanish Flu 1918-19 killed 675000 US citizens. You'd think we'd do better 100+ years later right?

It begs the question of what happens next iteration of a virus thats more lethal for the US?

I won't argue because I agree with you about stakeholders and profits. I do ask why do/would people who distrust vaccines trust off the shelf remedies and therapeutics at the same time with absolutely layman's knowledge of both.

At some point we have to trust someone smarter than we are. If not and cards are not on your side you die from this stuff.

I don’t distrust vaccines. It’s part of the equation. There’s doctors who swear by therapeutics. The vaccine only people call these doctors quacks. Look how they pushed the vaccine and how it changed to fit the narrative just like mask. They are guessing. They don’t afford the same objectivity to therapeutics. Products that been safety around for ever. At least test it instead of dismissing it. There’s long term test proving some therapeutics now. There’s plenty of medication that started treating one symptom. And was found to treat something else. My original blood pressure medication is now used for hair growth. Ed medication seem to help with memory loss. When some doctors were dismissive of therapeutics in the beginning with just as much testing as vaccines. I became skeptical. It’s the money.

OnTheReel · January 31, 2022

I am not anti-vax. I believe they prevent you getting real sick. But that’s all. The reason to distrust is obvious.

1) Censorship of any opposing views, even when they come from reputable doctors. Not allowing people to come to their own conclusions.

2) No emphasis on finding and studying effective therapeutics. In fact, they go out of their way to stop them.

3) One size fits none approach. No, a 5 year old does not carry the same risk as an 85 year old and should not be urged to take the same medication.

4) Vaccines being WAY oversold from the start. Wish it worked like they said it would, but it doesn’t. Breakthrough cases aren’t rare, they are the norm. Just had my Wednesday dinner plans with family canceled because two vaccinated and boosted members tested positive for the second time!

5) People like Fauci having been on both sides of literally every issue has eroded public trust in our health officials. Especially when nothing they say has worked!

6) Lastly, human nature. The harder you’re pushed to do something, the less likely you’ll be to do it. Especially in light of reasons 1-5.

And then you start talking about a 4th shot, a new version for Omicron that will be out in time for the next variant, etc. People’s eyes start to glaze over. It’s been two years. Many countries are realizing this is needs to be treated like a flu season. It ain’t going anywhere.

customboss · January 31, 2022

Not a long read but informative and refreshed me on the dangers of anecdotal evidence.

https://statisticsbyjim.com/basics/anecdotal-evidence/

KARNUT · January 31, 2022

30 minutes ago, customboss said:

Not a long read but informative and refreshed me on the dangers of anecdotal evidence.

https://statisticsbyjim.com/basics/anecdotal-evidence/

The good doctor says it takes about 6 years for medication to get fully tested and approved. Clinical trails and all that. The therapeutics been there and done that. Covid vaccine it’s us. Sounds like you’re anecdotal evidence. We can go back and forth with all kinds of theories. I’ve made my mind up, so have you.

diyer2 · January 31, 2022

All we have is the vaccine. At least it helps if you do get covid. How about if you get covid and you're not vaccinated, you get the bill for your care.

KARNUT · January 31, 2022

9 minutes ago, customboss said:

There is no debate. I don’t know what seized nut means? There’s opinion but no argument about vaccination.
Grumpy seems pretty well thought out and backs his comments with data.
I haven’t been here long but I appreciate all opinions but if you can debunk even mine with science I appreciate that. I hope we are all here to learn and inform in fact!

Not all science agrees. It’s a moving target. The vaccine should prove that. Ford is the best selling truck for 40 years. Unless you add Chevy and GMC together. The mask protects against Covid, until it doesn’t. The other guy you’ll find out. I’m going to refrain for now, got to respect the thread.

customboss · January 31, 2022

The statement that; "not all science agrees" = a hypothesis not a tested theory, or law of science.

Most don't grasp that science is iterative. Building, refining, improving, trial and error that rechecks itself over time. It's a process.

It's not policy making, it's not opinion, it's not a belief, it's not faith, it's not an observation, its a definitive process to understand what is not known. It also changes as we learn testable hypothesis that become theories, that become scientific laws.

I think we all mix up opinion, observation, policy making, politics, belief, anecdote with science. That confusion is used by those would manipulate our opinions for profit or leverage or control.

Covid was an unknown with deadly consequences of that unknown. Scientists didn't change their opinions, they have been describing what they see and confirm, adapting to that factual shift in a virus. What policy makers, TV reporters, opinion writers, commentators, and even us on this thread describing our experience anecdotally think doesn't change the science and it doesn't disagree its working to describe and react to the reality of the virus.

Thats not soundbite feel good but its what is going on. We get frustrated with each other when we can't be sure about something and there's always those who feed and profit off of misery.

When a peer reviewed theory is tested and retested even if it's not scientific law it's a smart bet not to ignore that.

customboss · January 31, 2022

https://www.discovery.com/science/Difference-Between-Fact-Hypothesis-Theory-Law-Science

txab · January 31, 2022

Starting to go off track with the topic. Arguing with or without facts about Covid is pointless. Always going to be someone get heated, so best to stop it now.

Again, thread topic is what you're doing in your spare time during Covid.

Admins aren't interested in this site turning into a Covid fight like it has in the past

Edited January 31, 2022 by txab

customboss · January 31, 2022

Understand. Shame facts can't be a common thread for us here.

Grumpy Bear · February 1, 2022

15 hours ago, txab said:

Again, thread topic is what you're doing in your spare time during Covid.

Refining the breather system of lack thereof in Sugar Bears Terrain. I documented that in Dizzy's build thread. What I wanted to share here is the trial of it. It took days to do what should have been a 1 hour or less job.

There was a fella You Tube that did a PCV install on his 2.4 and gave the part numbers for the job. But not all the information.

The PCV valve he listed for instance as it turns out has literally 50 different part numbers and everyone of them is made in a factory in Mexico and fits a huge percentage of motors on the road for the last 30 years or so. Same part in different packaging with different part numbers. Yea...you know what that means? You local Auto Zone stock is likely over half duplicate parts in different boxes. Talk about wasted inventory! Wait it gets better and this is tested true. I ask for a PCV valve for an 89 Toyota Tercel 1.5 SOHC [the part number he gave] and it's not on the shelf so it has to be ordered. I ask for a PCV valve for a 71 Ford Pinto 2300 and it IS on the shelf but that part number 'WILL NOT FIT YOUR TOYOTA". Exact same valve made in the exact same factory will not fit because the part number doesn't match the number for a Toyota. I miss a good parts man.

So I could have had the part in hand BUT had to order it as I lacked this knowledge before hand. Same scenario with the grommet. Part number he gave was for the Ford and of course they did not have it but they did have the Toyota part on the shelf and again, exact same part in a different Dorman box with a different colored label and part number. Oh and the weekend four day wait for someone to ship that part from a store 250 miles away.

Okay, I spliced into the brake booster line. I did not know that vacuum hose is always in 32's while all other hoses are in 16's or larger. Story goes that vacuum hose will not handle gasoline or oily vapor and gas hose will not handle vacuum. That's the story. What the story should be is HEATER HOSE will not handle either but nearly all gas line hose is plainly stamped FUEL/PCV SERVICE. While vacuum lines are stamped with nothing but the size. What a racket. And a time killer. But I can tell you if you stab 15/32's vacuum hose onto a 1/2" barb use allot of silicon grease and don't stop until you have it driven home cause brother, it isn't going either way once you stop.

customboss · February 1, 2022

23 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

I miss a good parts man.

Great work and thanks for sharing, breathe baby Dizzy breathe. With the plugs, coils, and boots hoping your oil usage drops to nil, MPG,power, and smoothness return.

You have worked mighty to get this engine to perform better.

Grumpy Bear · February 1, 2022

2 minutes ago, customboss said:

Great work and thanks for sharing, breathe baby Dizzy breathe. With the plugs, coils, and boots hoping your oil usage drops to nil, MPG,power, and smoothness return.

You have worked mighty to get this engine to perform better.

Idle quality is better. While I only have a few tanks to look at, not enough for a statistically significant assessment, it 'seems' to have improved a measurable amount. I'm safer under the SUV than in the parts store