What Do You Think of the 2020 Titan?

[Nanotech Environmental]

2 hours ago, NWI Denali said:

Using some rough numbers, the difference in fuel cost at say, 13mpg avg vs 17 mpg avg over 100k miles @$3/gallon, is $5400. $5400 bucks can pay for quite a few engine repairs if needed.

I'd suggest it could be worse than that. Many people seem to be able to meet or beat GM's advertised fuel economy numbers. I do quite regularly.
 personally haven't seen that from Tundra owners.(it doesn't mean they aren't, I just haven't seen it.) The ones I have seen have reported worse than expected mileage, so the expected 100K mile cost difference might be a bunch more than what you have shown. 
Also, the Toyotas aren't foolproof. They've certainly had their share of issues.

[Cpl_Punishment]

On 3/20/2020 at 1:23 PM, Mandalorian said:

 

Pricing really depends on the configuration. Lower trim Tundras are more expensive than comparable GM/Ford, but higher trim Tundras are cheaper than comparable GM/Ford. Tundras top out at something like $54k USD while F-150 Limiteds and Sierra Denalis are pushing $70k loaded up.

Just don't complain that the $54k Tundra doesn't have the same features as the $70k domestics. Admittedly, the Platinum Tundra is probably closer to an SLT/ LTZ or Lariat than a Limited or Denali. 

[wizard4878]

14 hours ago, Dunn said:

for me to buy one the deal would have to be insane...Nissan gotta give them more for less, and their is nothing the salesman can do to rebut your argument over the price!

yeah,  I only got them down $1500,  needed to be at least $5000

[Dunn]

5 hours ago, Nanotech Environmental said:

I'd suggest it could be worse than that. Many people seem to be able to meet or beat GM's advertised fuel economy numbers. I do quite regularly.
 personally haven't seen that from Tundra owners.(it doesn't mean they aren't, I just haven't seen it.) The ones I have seen have reported worse than expected mileage, so the expected 100K mile cost difference might be a bunch more than what you have shown. 
Also, the Toyotas aren't foolproof. They've certainly had their share of issues.

I am getting maybe 12-13 in my tundra, granted its tired with 200k but I still use it for work sometimes

my Silverado fuel mileage in cluster is all messed up.... its not accurate ....have to take it in to dealer to check it out.....but usually around 18-20.....my 2000 tundra was bulletproof my 2005 had some issues but still pretty good truck

[Pinnacle]

11 hours ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

From what I read, that Cummins wasn't awesome. Always going into limp mode and drinking DEF like there was no tomorrow. 

That limp mode had to do with their BCMs, tranny was culprit too, Def thing ya thats typical cummins

[Pinnacle]

14 hours ago, NWI Denali said:

Using some rough numbers, the difference in fuel cost at say, 13mpg avg vs 17 mpg avg over 100k miles @$3/gallon, is $5400. $5400 bucks can pay for quite a few engine repairs if needed.

Ya Ive looked at the same thing, but Tundras I had I got 19 to 20 on highway, the other thing is does one have the space, tools and lift for those repairs and do you want to play around with engine teardowns,  Im personally looking at the 3L diesels

[OnTheReel]

12 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

That limp mode had to do with their BCMs, tranny was culprit too, Def thing ya thats typical cummins

Cummins has dumped that engine altogether, even the commercial version (ISV5.0). The handful of busses and RVs it was used in are now running their 6.7 instead for 2020.
 

As I see it, if the engine had any upside at all, they would have kept it around. It’s not cheap to design a modern diesel engine. To only use it a few years usually means it’s a failure (6.4 Powerstroke comes to mind). We know Nissan no longer wanted to buy it. But it is just as likely Cummins no longer wanted to build it or fix it either. 

[Pinnacle]

17 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

Cummins has dumped that engine altogether, even the commercial version (ISV5.0). The handful of busses and RVs it was used in are now running their 6.7 instead for 2020.
 

As I see it, if the engine had any upside at all, they would have kept it around. It’s not cheap to design a modern diesel engine. To only use it a few years usually means it’s a failure (6.4 Powerstroke comes to mind). We know Nissan no longer wanted to buy it. But it is just as likely Cummins no longer wanted to build it or fix it either. 

Ya never really know why they just dropped it, I thought it had some potential.  I guess its either really small diesels or the big boys that fits the best.