Coronavirus

The Zip · August 3, 2020

4 minutes ago, davester said:

It's my understanding that the "fast-tracking" of the vaccines is by eliminating the wait between the testing stages

For example, going to stage 2 testing straight after stage 1, instead of spending a bunch of time evaluating the results of stage 1 to see if they should move on to stage 2 (but still doing the evaluation, and then stopping stage 2 if the evaluation is negative). And starting production of the vaccine before the testing and approval is done, knowing that if the testing fails or the approval isn't given, they have to destroy the vaccine they've produced. It's spending money to save time, but they aren't skipping the actual testing, and they have to go over the results of the testing at the end and get approval before they can being distributing the vaccine.

Got it.

KARNUT · August 3, 2020

Someone said hydroxychloroquine isn’t effective. From all the reading and watching I’ve seen. It’s seems to be as effective as a flu shot, 30-50 percent according to the studies I’ve seen. Some posted here. The trick is when you take it and what combination. People get a flu shot every year. So for the people with an agenda, don’t take it.

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KARNUT · August 3, 2020

The last one that came through was with the prior administration. Older people had herd immunity, it wasn’t new. It was scary at first. No lock downs not much was done. The young got herd immunity quickly it faded. The difference was who was president and who backed him. The news media. This is worse no doubt. But the hysteria is whipped up for obvious reasons.

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Grumpy Bear · August 3, 2020

18 hours ago, davester said:

That's the problem. Doctors are fact-based, and Trump is twitter-based. Everyone knows twitter is the best source of knowledge, particularly for new diseases.

Ah a guy who commonly uses common sense.

When I read a twitty quote meant to harm someones reputation I think of James 3:5

So, too, the tongue is a small part of the body, and yet it makes great brags. See how small a fire it takes to set a great forest ablaze!

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OnTheReel · August 3, 2020

Tell me, what part of Twitter told Trump about HCQ? Just wondering since it’s chocked full of lefties without medical degrees who have been actively removing anyone who advocates it’s use. Including yes, many many doctors.

Interesting how so-called “non-political” people fall all over themselves whenever someone makes an (inaccurate) political statement about Trump.

Thejet07 · August 3, 2020

Like I’ve said, in the end it all turns to politics or political gesture. And we all know how that goes.

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Thejet07 · August 3, 2020

Let’s not forget, China lied to us. The Who covered it up. Bill gates wants a vaccine. Dr fauci works for/with Bill Gates. Chinese app spies on us. Microsoft(Bill Gates) wants to buy said app. Bill Gates linked to Epstein. It’s all circular. Biden, pelosi, Kerry etc linked to China and Ukraine. List goes on. You could keep your blinders on.

Btw, found this hysterical:

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KARNUT · August 4, 2020

All my southern covid dashboards are trending down. Just in time for my August trip East. Some rapidly so. Myrtle beach had a very good June. Not so since. The scuttlebutt from people I talk to in the area is. The northerners brought it down. Infected the area. Then blame Myrtle beach for sending it back north. Typical.

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Thejet07 · August 4, 2020

Of course it’s not NY’s fault. Look how good they did in the past with this. The media praises them.

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Grumpy Bear · August 5, 2020

I see Mercury News reporting: Coronavirus: ‘Discrepancies’ in California’s case data cast doubt as deaths continue to rise

Funny how one little place on earth is pushing the world numbers quickly towards 20 million cases isn't it?

Spectrum New NYC: NYC to Implement Coronavirus Checkpoints at Major Entry Points, Mayor Says

NY will drive the numbers back down.

C'mon man that was funny.

All the spinning make a guy dizzy and yet the numbers still climb. Guess BS has little effect on this virus. :crackup:

KARNUT · August 5, 2020

It’s seems strange that one of the most lock down states can’t seem to get their act together. Just by the shear numbers of people fleeing the state their numbers should be declining. The fact is the numbers are declining. But is true if there’s one positive case the positive cases rise. Some people just can’t handle good news. Just have to be negative downers. The truth is from now and for evermore there will be a rise in positive cases, that’s a fact.

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OnTheReel · August 5, 2020

We had two days in a row under 50k new “cases”...yesterday was slightly over...51k I think. Either way, July was around 60k per day so it looks like we are heading in the right direction in a general sense. Certainly hard to make a case to lockdown even further under these conditions...we see how well that method works anyway.

Hospitalizations continue to drop, and in my opinion that’s the most reliable and important statistic. The rest is noise. As Karnut says, only one direction the positive test count can go.

“As deaths continue to rise” is another one. We could get to the point where one person a week dies of (or with) Covid-19 50 years from now and that statement would technically be accurate.

The Zip · August 6, 2020

1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

I see Mercury News reporting: Coronavirus: ‘Discrepancies’ in California’s case data cast doubt as deaths continue to rise

Spectrum New NYC: NYC to Implement Coronavirus Checkpoints at Major Entry Points, Mayor Says

They have been talking locally about the numbers count in Ca for a few days now, the count has been frozen until they can get it right.

As for the checkpoints in NYC, we mentioned this a number of pages back. If this checkpoint is on a road or major highway, this will be very manpower intensive if a 24/7 operation. If not 24/7, why do it?

OnTheReel · August 6, 2020

It’s posturing, that’s why. Crime is becoming a big problem in the city...so let’s divert resources into something that’s not a problem?

Then again, it may not take many resources to monitor people going into NYC...can’t imagine many people are interested in that trip.

Thejet07 · August 6, 2020

It’s absolutely impossible to have check points for this. It would be useless. Have you ever been on a road in nyc and not seen an out of state plate? Lived in worked all my life in ny. It can’t happen. And can’t is usually not in my vocabulary.

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