Coronavirus

swathdiver · March 17, 2020

The world has gone insane. Things are not as they seem.

KARNUT · March 17, 2020

I know lots of old people. I’m no spring chicken myself. We live in a bubble wrap society for sure.Just look at kids playing. You can’t voice an opinion, you don’t care about your kids they’ll say. Everything’s based on fear. This is just the next step. The older people usually say thanks for the concern sissy I can take of myself. This isn’t living, live your life. The self isolation doesn’t bother me. The government mandates do.

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It's Tim · March 17, 2020

I love the Tokyo Rose posts is these threads.

KARNUT · March 17, 2020

I understand the new store hours given the panic buying. Us older people this time of the year would usually go to stores off peak. Less people less chances to get sick. I usually went at 6 AM. Another example the crowd just moves. Instead at sports venues their at stores or airports. Fox News is starting to show recovery stats now finally.

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KARNUT · March 17, 2020

When I travel East I stop at casinos. The rooms are cheap during the week.[emoji41]I don’t have to pay. During the week it usually old people like me. The conversations are always lively. They just had to close. I can guarantee the usual number were there. I can hear them now say I’d rather take my chances as they drag their oxygen tanks out the door. You bunch of sissy’s they’d say. There’re biggest fear is being stuck there at home.

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It's Tim · March 17, 2020

11 hours ago, Thomcat said:

I do know that It is not the virus that kills you, it is the complications that can develop from the viral infection.... especially in the older crowd ....and antibiotics are excellent for treating bacterial infections like pneumonia. If you development a lingering viral infection and unchecked congestion ..... antibiotics will be prescribed, otherwise unchecked you'll drown in your own juices and/or from congestive heart failure.

This is a clean slate and new stats will be logged, can't begin to compare the U.S. to the rest of the world. Sure the elderly are always suseptible to influenza but in the United States I suspect obesity will be a much greater factor in the demise of many, many more.

Donstar · March 17, 2020

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

I know lots of old people... I’m no spring chicken myself.... We live in a bubble wrap society for sure....Everything’s based on fear.

I'm also passed the spring time of life and appreciate being old. The alternative is unacceptable! I honestly can say I don't currently live in fear or feel trapped in a bubble. I know it is often tempting but I strive to keep optimistic and positive. I appreciate the hardships of this pandemic on you and your loved ones. Imo, you have the added burden of believing this is a political crises centered around your president. I don't get a sense (or believe) that your fear is universal. But, I appreciate you have a circle of supporters. This pandemic by definition is not owned by one country and we all have to work together to beat this virus.

KARNUT · March 17, 2020

I'm also passed the spring time of life and appreciate being old. The alternative is unacceptable! I honestly can say I don't currently live in fear or feel trapped in a bubble. I know it is often tempting but I strive to keep optimistic and positive. I appreciate the hardships of this pandemic on you and your loved ones. Imo, you have the added burden of believing this is a political crises centered around your president. I don't get a sense (or believe) that your fear is universal. But, I appreciate you have a circle of supporters. This pandemic by definition is not owned by one country and we all have to work together to beat this virus.

I agree with most of that. Like everything else in the last almost four years, the prof will come later. The only person so far being able to speak his mind cautiously has been Rush. The rest have been censured. That too will change soon.

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KARNUT · March 17, 2020

I have question that I expect someone could answer that really knows. It’s been stated today that people die of the flu anywhere from 15-45K yearly. That’s with vaccines. How do we handle that? Where do the go? They need beds, ventilation. No one has stated how the flu is doing this year. I don’t know any one who’s even had a cold this year.

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It's Tim · March 17, 2020

42 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I have question that I expect someone could answer that really knows. It’s been stated today that people die of the flu anywhere from 15-45K yearly. That’s with vaccines. How do we handle that? Where do the go? They need beds, ventilation. No one has stated how the flu is doing this year. I don’t know any one who’s even had a cold this year.

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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

Key Points

Clinical laboratory data remain elevated but decreased for the fourth week in a row while ILI activity increased slightly. The largest increases in ILI activity occurred in areas of the country where COVID-19 is most prevalent. More people may be seeking care for respiratory illness than usual at this time.
Nationally, influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses are now the most commonly reported influenza viruses this season. Previously, influenza B/Victoria viruses predominated nationally.
Laboratory confirmed influenza associated hospitalization rates for the overall U.S. population remain moderate compared to recent seasons, but rates for children 0-4 years and adults 18-49 years are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing rates reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children (5-17 years) are higher than any recent regular season but remain lower than rates experienced by this age group during the pandemic.
Pneumonia and influenza mortality has been low, but 144 influenza-associated deaths in children have been reported so far this season. This number is higher for the same time period than in every season since reporting began in 2004-05, except for the 2009 pandemic.
CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 36 million flu illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths from flu.
Antiviral medications are an important adjunct to flu vaccine in the control of influenza. Almost all (>99%) of the influenza viruses tested this season are susceptible to the four FDA-approved influenza antiviral medications recommended for use in the U.S. this season.

KARNUT · March 17, 2020

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
Key Points

Clinical laboratory data remain elevated but decreased for the fourth week in a row while ILI activity increased slightly. The largest increases in ILI activity occurred in areas of the country where COVID-19 is most prevalent. More people may be seeking care for respiratory illness than usual at this time.

Nationally, influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses are now the most commonly reported influenza viruses this season. Previously, influenza B/Victoria viruses predominated nationally.

Laboratory confirmed influenza associated hospitalization rates for the overall U.S. population remain moderate compared to recent seasons, but rates for children 0-4 years and adults 18-49 years are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing rates reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children (5-17 years) are higher than any recent regular season but remain lower than rates experienced by this age group during the pandemic.

Pneumonia and influenza mortality has been low, but 144 influenza-associated deaths in children have been reported so far this season. This number is higher for the same time period than in every season since reporting began in 2004-05, except for the 2009 pandemic.

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 36 million flu illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths from flu.

Antiviral medications are an important adjunct to flu vaccine in the control of influenza. Almost all (>99%) of the influenza viruses tested this season are susceptible to the four FDA-approved influenza antiviral medications recommended for use in the U.S. this season.

Thank you, I just read China closed their last temporary hospital.

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dieselfan1 · March 17, 2020

I've been delegated to be the grocery shopper for all my older freinds and relatives. I had a talk with all my older peeps. I said I got you covered just let me know what you need and I'll get for you and I'll leave it on your front steps .

So I'm off to the grocery store for a while. I hope I don't kick someones ass. People have really changed in the last few days. You can sure tell the selfish people from the rest.

riverbanks · March 17, 2020

Godspeed

Likarok · March 17, 2020

There are a lot of naïve people out there. And I think some of them are my relatives. And the rest of us will have to pay now to fetch there sorry asses after they went to some third world shit hole on vacation and can't get a regular flight home.

KARNUT · March 17, 2020

There are a lot of naïve people out there. And I think some of them are my relatives. And the rest of us will have to pay now to fetch there sorry asses after they went to some third world shit hole on vacation and can't get a regular flight home.

My brother just back from Mexico. They don’t have the bug there. There’re talking about closing the boarder to us. Lots of things I’ve never imagine could happen are.

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