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1 hour ago, The Zip said:

  Return to normal means the replacement is, do nothing.

Yes, returning to the old normal doesn't solve anything unless science has found  a replacement to social/physical distancing, restricting travel and increased cleaning practices.  There are many strategies to establish a "new normal" which is doing something.  I believe most of us give more credence to health professionals than politicians and will exercise safe practices until science has smashed this scourge.

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2 hours ago, The Zip said:

Return to normal means the replacement is, do nothing.

...and, the federal government does not project a "suspected" vaccine until Dec 2020.  Return to normal has to gap the area between now and Dec.  Ok...

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20 minutes ago, Donstar said:

Yes, returning to the old normal doesn't solve anything unless science has found  a replacement to social/physical distancing, restricting travel and increased cleaning practices.  There are many strategies to establish a "new normal" which is doing something.  I believe most of us give more credence to health professionals than politicians and will exercise safe practices until science has smashed this scourge.

We’ll probably have to do it ourselves like we normally do. It’s called herd immunity. It’s been establish that the numbers are off. Even Dr. Birx has said that. She estimates over 25 percent. Some people like numbers though, the worst the better. I bet the numbers people will really like the Thursday numbers. The unemployment ones. According to them, they don’t matter. 

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1 hour ago, Donstar said:

There are many strategies to establish a "new normal" which is doing something.  I believe most of us give more credence to health professionals than politicians and will exercise safe practices until science has smashed this scourge.

I agree with that or else you wouldn't see most folks wearing a face cover.  If I had to make a "new normal" choice, distancing would be more important.  A face covering doesn't matter as much in wide open spaces or on the other side of the room. 

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52 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I bet the numbers people will really like the Thursday numbers. The unemployment ones. According to them, they don’t matter. 

Unless you're in charge of hiring or firing, doesn't matter to any of us.  But regardless of the affiliation, all of us care. 

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1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

We’ll probably have to do it ourselves like we normally do. It’s called herd immunity. It’s been establish that the numbers are off. Even Dr. Birx has said that. She estimates over 25 percent. Some people like numbers though, the worst the better. I bet the numbers people will really like the Thursday numbers. The unemployment ones. According to them, they don’t matter. 

So unemployment figures are flawless? No axe grinding going on? Like when they don't count those that gave up during the 2008 recession? Those ACCURATE numbers? How about I say they are 25% under reported. That carry weight? You pick and choose your experts to suit your cause. Funny that. 

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She is dropping hard.....What you all going to talk about next month?  Background will be there always....it's a new strain/friend that is not going to disappear.  Careful about getting that first Vac shot sailors..... 

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NY does not have enough money to sustain police, hospitals, firefighters, schools, and foodbanks, what do you cut first to compensate?  Sorry Ithan, schools will probably be the first ones on the block to go.  I would cut all the power to Wall Street first to see what that generates.

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36 minutes ago, mookdoc6 said:

She is dropping hard.....What you all going to talk about next month?  Background will be there always....it's a new strain/friend that is not going to disappear.  Careful about getting that first Vac shot sailors..... 

I never got the flu shot. I learned some new things I never thought of in germ transmission. I imagine with all the new procedures with opening up even the flu will be less this season. It will be nice getting back to those important threads. You know when to change the oil, at what time. How about those mufflers. I’m really miss those oil analysts threads. Kidding aside normalcies will be nice.

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Google has recently added charts for each county showing the new case 'curve' for last 60 days. 

 

Brazil, one of the counties that is in the 'let her rip' mode is now #3 world wide for number of cases. #6 in the number of deaths and remember....they are just getting started. Russia is now #2 in confirmed but way down the list on dead. Also late to the party. Later than Brazil. Oddly a northern hemisphere county. Not funny! Give a look in 14 days. 

 

World chart I keep on that data that was flat has taken off again gaining a bit more than 300 cases day over day with a positive acceleration. Currently 4,500 per day above the 80-K per day previous plateau. 

 

911 changed the way the world does things forever. This will too. 

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3 minutes ago, The Zip said:

NY does not have enough money to sustain police, hospitals, firefighters, schools, and foodbanks, what do you cut first to compensate?  Sorry Ithan, schools will probably be the first ones on the block to go.  I would cut all the power to Wall Street first to see what that generates.

They were short before, as with most blue states. Here’s an idea, open up and collect taxes. I’m short many bucks from my vacation condo rentals in Myrtle beach. I have a rainy day fund. It’s called preparing. With the density in New York there’s only one excuse for their problem, waste. 

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11 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I never got the flu shot. I learned some new things I never thought of in germ transmission. I imagine with all the new procedures with opening up even the flu will be less this season. It will be nice getting back to those important threads. You know when to change the oil, at what time. How about those mufflers. I’m really miss those oil analysts threads. Kidding aside normalcies will be nice.

I never got the shot either and yes I guess I'm becoming a bit of a germaphobe. Makes sense that other diseases transmitted in like manor would respond favorably to these new procedures. At least for those that follow them. I've nearly washed the hide right off my mittens. 

 

Been thinking about dropping an oil thread firecracker and see if anyone is awake. 

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2 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

They were short before, as with most blue states. Here’s an idea, open up and collect taxes. I’m short many bucks from my vacation condo rentals in Myrtle beach. I have a rainy day fund. It’s called preparing. With the density in New York there’s only one excuse for their problem, waste. 

Red or blue, right now blue is raising the flag.  It will happen to red.  Is your answer the same for a red state?

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