Coronavirus

[KARNUT]

Yup, the whole world has fabricated this event, just to hurt Trump.

Look up H1-N1. I rest my case.


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[davester]

Yup, H1-N1 was also fabricated to hurt Trump.

[KARNUT]

Yup, H1-N1 was also fabricated to hurt Trump.

Last post to you. 300K hospitalizations, about 16K deaths, millions affected just in the US. Obama was president the media praise him for calling an emergency after 1000 deaths. Not much news coverage. No panic, not much change. No gearing up for the next pandemic, Right now there’s 200 cases of new cases every year. It probably gets lumped in to the other 19-30K flu deaths a year. So yea probably has nothing to do with the mostly liberal news media or Trump being president. Silly me.


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[Texas Daddy]

Honestly, a 2٪ death rate to mostly the already weak and sick is a really shitty bioweapon. You could show the same general stats for flu every year for a news headline (why dont they?). Dallas mayor just closed everything and stated that they were now the most aggresive city in TX vs covid19. LOL! This is 100٪ political...

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[Thomcat]

On 3/13/2020 at 6:25 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

Ops, couple of decimal off. OMG I made a mistake. 10 in 100. Yep that's worse. You do know that antibiotics are ineffective against viruses I'm sure. 

 

My Grandfather (maternal) was in the service in 1919. They stacked bodies like cord wood where he was stationed. He was one of those bodies on the stack. Month of November. About 30 minutes later he walks back in the barracks fevered out of his mind butt naked asking where his clothes were. Nurses dropped. He stuck around till 1957. 

 

 

 

I do know that It is not the virus that kills you, it is the complications that can develop from the viral infection.... especially in the older crowd ....and antibiotics are excellent for treating bacterial infections like pneumonia. If you development a lingering viral infection and unchecked congestion ..... antibiotics will be prescribed, otherwise unchecked you'll drown in your own juices and/or from congestive heart failure.

[Thomcat]

On 3/13/2020 at 2:31 PM, riverbanks said:

Thank God,we have come along way,ain't nobody putting leeches on me,so,I just got back from the store,no shortage of t.p. here,so I'm good to go,pun intended

Come a long way?.....not so when it comes to leeches! Leeches are considered a medical device and as such regulated by the FDA.  Actually specially bred for use in some post op surgeries and injuries to remove infected blood and promote wound drainage.  Also good if you have a really bad black eye.

 

Crazy medicine? Well so is Crazy Glue which is frequently used to seal off brain aneurysms by neurosurgeons.

[davester]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

Last post to you. 300K hospitalizations, about 16K deaths, millions affected just in the US. Obama was president the media praise him for calling an emergency after 1000 deaths. Not much news coverage. No panic, not much change. No gearing up for the next pandemic, Right now there’s 200 cases of new cases every year. It probably gets lumped in to the other 19-30K flu deaths a year. So yea probably has nothing to do with the mostly liberal news media or Trump being president. Silly me.


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And yet, just today Trump is saying this problem can last until July or August, and that gatherings should be limited to under 10 people.

 

I guess he's in on the plot to destroy himself too...

[KARNUT]

And yet, just today Trump is saying this problem can last until July or August, and that gatherings should be limited to under 10 people.
 
I guess he's in on the plot to destroy himself too...

He has no choice. Imagine the media if he did exactly as Obama did. Same media, same democratic leaders in congress. Exactly the same.


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[KARNUT]

It’s easy to look up. The H1-N1 global deaths were close to 600K.


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[davester]

10 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

He has no choice. Imagine the media if he did exactly as Obama did. Same media, same democratic leaders in congress. Exactly the same.


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Yup, cuz if there is anything we've learned over the last 3 years, is that Trump follows along with mainstream media and does what they want.

 

Or he just realized a large part of his base is old people.

[KARNUT]

 
Yup, cuz if there is anything we've learned over the last 3 years, is that Trump follows along with mainstream media and does what they want.
 
Or he just realized a large part of his base is old people.

This obviously different. When he closed the border to China they screamed. Same old same old. But you can’t be convinced otherwise anyhow. As you can see most people can see it. Wait a week. People are going to say BS on this. I rather take a risk and be free. This is not freedom. I know how to wash my hands.


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[Ithan Henry]

2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Last post to you. 300K hospitalizations, about 16K deaths, millions affected just in the US. Obama was president the media praise him for calling an emergency after 1000 deaths. Not much news coverage. No panic, not much change. No gearing up for the next pandemic, Right now there’s 200 cases of new cases every year. It probably gets lumped in to the other 19-30K flu deaths a year. So yea probably has nothing to do with the mostly liberal news media or Trump being president. Silly me.


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This is from the CDC website on H1N1 https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html.  There are no concrete numbers only estimates.  The National Security Counsel had a Pandemic division but it was eliminated by this administration.  I won't make excuses for either political party since they're both equally annoying.  But what made H1N1 different from COVID-19 is that it was a form of flu.  The flu is dangerous because when severe it can cause bacterial pneumonia.  This however, is treatable with antibiotics.  COVID-19 is dangerous because it attacks the lower respiratory tract and is viral, meaning that antibiotics will not work against it.  So anyone with damaged lungs are in severe danger if they contract COVID-19.  This is why it's being treated differently.  

 

I hope for everyone's sake that they get this under control and that we were overcautious as opposed to what could happen.  I wish my family could treat this as passively as some, but my wife's doctors have told us how bad it would be if she caught COVID-19 with her Cystic Fibrosis.  And I'm not trying to be a single dad anytime soon.

[TXGREEK]

Trump has been right from the get go, Lessons learned, we as a nation need to separate ourselves, becoming independent from China, we are the most powerful and richest country on the planet and don’t need our resources globalized by China.


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[Texas Daddy]

This is from the CDC website on H1N1 https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html.  There are no concrete numbers only estimates.  The National Security Counsel had a Pandemic division but it was eliminated by this administration.  I won't make excuses for either political party since they're both equally annoying.  But what made H1N1 different from COVID-19 is that it was a form of flu.  The flu is dangerous because when severe it can cause bacterial pneumonia.  This however, is treatable with antibiotics.  COVID-19 is dangerous because it attacks the lower respiratory tract and is viral, meaning that antibiotics will not work against it.  So anyone with damaged lungs are in severe danger if they contract COVID-19.  This is why it's being treated differently.  
 
I hope for everyone's sake that they get this under control and that we were overcautious as opposed to what could happen.  I wish my family could treat this as passively as some, but my wife's doctors have told us how bad it would be if she caught COVID-19 with her Cystic Fibrosis.  And I'm not trying to be a single dad anytime soon.

The flu needs nothing else to kill you. This and flu - in rare cases - fill alveoli with fluid causing hypoxia needing mechanical ventilation or ECMO. You can catch the flu when you have coronavirus. You can catch hiv when you have bacterial pneumonia. You certainly can catch bacterial pneumonia with coronavirus. There is no sickness that fends off another sickness. In fact, having any infection opens you to other infections, and deaths most often occur with multiple infections - its the straw that breaks the camels back...

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[Donstar]

7 hours ago, Texas Daddy said:

Just wash your hands - better than any sanitizer...

 

Washing your hands is preferred.  Hand sanitizer is a good second best when you don't have access to soap and water.