Lipstick On A PIG

[Yoda2]

1 hour ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

I would never go back to this particular dealership based on everything I saw there. My local dealership, on the other hand (which also happens to be where my company gets a bunch of our trucks from) is awesome. Largest dealership on this side of the country (or so they claim). They own both GMC and Chevy dealerships and most salesmen are able to sell both brands. I told them I definitely wasn't buying a 2019 SLE they had and they still threw the keys at me and told me to bring it back the next day. (Though maybe they were planning to strip my car and sell it for parts while I was gone. ) The only downside was them trying to convince me to buy the 2019 because they "knew" there was "no way" GM would be putting the 10 speed in any 2020s with the 5.3...

I don't know where the offending dealer got information stating that GM would not be putting the 10 speed transmission  in a 5.3L powered 1500.

They sure as heck are ........

Here' the official GMC announcement:

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/05/2020-gmc-sierra-1500-expands-10-speed-transmission-availability/

[wizard4878]

On 11/6/2019 at 9:05 AM, Thomcat said:

Very expensive? No relatively cheap for what you are buying! Everything is relative to ones scope of experience, in fact they are no more expensive than they ever were and safer, easier to drive and more creature features than their predecessors.

 

Back in 1960 my dad paid $2,000 for a new Impala when current $1.00 size Hershey bars cost $0.05, a carton of cigarettes was $2.00, gas was $0.23 a gallon and $1500/oz. gold was $35.00/oz. and average salary was less than $4,000 yr.And all the Impala had was power steering, power brakes, tube radio and two antennae. Today a comparable Impala is $40,000 (for an inflation factor of 20x) which is about the same as a moderately equipped truck....with air conditioning, power windows and door locks, seat belts, air bags radial tires, antilock brakes, etc, etc. So no.....no more expensive than they ever were.....and they come with a lot more crap to break.

 

And as far as dependability, $hit happens to those that go looking for it. Fuel injection, electronic ignition....Haven't had a car flood while trying to start or stall out on the highway in 30 years or had to jamb a screwdriver to open the choke and shoot in ether on a freezing morning.....turn the key or now push the button and no more thinking. People complain about the first hard 1-2 upshift  after a cold start....try driving 60s GM 2 speed Powerglide that holds first to 40 mph before to shifting 2nd like a mule kicked it in the ass.

 

Over 3K miles on my '19 Silverado and not a thing wrong with it. Same goes for my '18 Traverse and Malibus, in fact the Traverse rides better than any Chevy (possibly with the exception of the '74 Impala Custom which got 6 mpg on a 454 cid) I've owned in the past 50 years. No matter what you buy same metal, rubber, plastic and electronic crap in all of them assembled and painted by robots. Want to maximize you're odds, go for pick of the litter, test drive them all, forget about color, buy with a "1" or "2" in the VIN, cross your fingers and dump when the warranty is up.........works for me.

 

After all, it's only a freakin' truck. Love my wife and kids and keep them for the duration, like my dogs and keep for their lifespan, but the truck? always a newer one with more features waiting on the lot.

What he ^ said, except I keep mine till about 200K miles.  

Sorry that your having issues, and don't want to rub it in, but my 19 slt has over 13K miles and no issues worth mentioning and has only been to the dealer for the free oil changes...

[powerhaulic]

Any and all brands have issues, and the issues are increasing because of the Tech, the tech most of us demand.

 

[Cpl_Punishment]

4 hours ago, Yoda2 said:

Cpl .....

Why not speak with the offering dealer, even though he is 36 hours away.

;Let him know where you're located and ask what sort of DEAL he'd be willing to cut you.

Your local dealer probably couldn't offer you as good of a deal as the posted truck.

Local dealer would have to pay for transport and then some.

 

If the offering dealer comes up with a GREAT deal, make an extended weekend trip with the wife or girlfriend .... may be both (((( chuckle ))))

The trip back would make a fabulous test drive.

 

By the way, $55K does NOT sound like a great deal.

I picked up my 2019 Sierra 1500 with the SLT Plus Package and the X-31 setup ... I paid $52K plus taxes.

MSRP Sticker was a little over $62K

Remember that I'm in Canada. Multiply all my prices by about 0.75 for FOREX.

 

The other 2018 SLE was looking at had an MSRP of about $60k. Dealership had marked it down to $48k and were willing to give me another $1000 off as a preferred pricing member. 

[Yoda2]

9 hours ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

Remember that I'm in Canada. Multiply all my prices by about 0.75 for FOREX.

 

The other 2018 SLE was looking at had an MSRP of about $60k. Dealership had marked it down to $48k and were willing to give me another $1000 off as a preferred pricing member. 

Sorry Rosy,

I missed that you were in Canada.

I'm a member of an international Triumph sports car club.

I know of many members who have parts delivered to members just across the boarder here in the States,

pick them up or install them on their cars and then drive home to avoid the tariffs and get less expensive shipping.

How times change. When I was in my 20's the Canadian dollar was worth more than a USA Dollar.

[Yoda2]

13 hours ago, wizard4878 said:

What he ^ said, except I keep mine till about 200K miles.  

Sorry that your having issues, and don't want to rub it in, but my 19 slt has over 13K miles and no issues worth mentioning and has only been to the dealer for the free oil changes...

OK, This is the 4th software upgrade done on my 2019 Sierra T! to remedy a BLUE SCREEN ERROR NOTICE,

for the back up camera not working.  Drove the car out of the dealer and it worked fine. Later the same evening

in a pitch black parking lot the camera failed to link again.

Some one here had mentioned that the computer may be booting to slowly to recognize all peripheral equipment.

He said he was told to NOT PUT THE VEHICLE IN GEAR until the computer went to a normal screen.

Doing  this didn't help him and it has not helped me.

 

GM Techs Don't Know How To FIX This Problem !

[Cpl_Punishment]

19 minutes ago, Yoda2 said:

Sorry Rosy,

I missed that you were in Canada.

I'm a member of an international Triumph sports car club.

I know of many members who have parts delivered to members just across the boarder here in the States,

pick them up or install them on their cars and then drive home to avoid the tariffs and get less expensive shipping.

How times change. When I was in my 20's the Canadian dollar was worth more than a USA Dollar.

Yeah, last time our dollar was on par with yours, a friend of mine went to the States to buy an STS-V because it was so much cheaper that way - and he worked as a car salesman! 

[wizard4878]

Definitely sucks that you're having such issues with a new truck, is there any chance of a buy back through lemon law?

[Yoda2]

4 hours ago, wizard4878 said:

Definitely sucks that you're having such issues with a new truck, is there any chance of a buy back through lemon law?

Wizzard/Steve

Though I'm disgusted with that lack of service department knowledge and  inability to solve my back up camera problem ... I do love the truck.

I'm not so sure how the lemon law works in NYS or if it would even apply to this sort of problem but I know I'll have to look into this.

It's my last resort.

For now, I'd love to have a sit down wot the regional service representative or even a phone conversation with someone at GM who is actually knowledgeable.

 

Does any one know how to contact a regional manager?

I've spoken multiple times with GMCs Customer Service Department at

[Thomcat]

My "1" VIN Ft. Wayne porker is running fine and she looks great in lipstick and black high (w)heels. No squeals from me, glad I dumped the K2!

Edited November 9, 2019 by Thomcat

[Cjc]

16 hours ago, Thomcat said:

My "1" VIN Ft. Wayne porker is running fine and she looks great in lipstick and black high (w)heels. No squeals from me, glad I dumped the K2!

Sorry I will keep my K2,then buying a ugly red Storm trooper truck.

[econometrics]

I honestly think that most of the T1 Debbie Downers who are K2 loyalists would have a much softened POV if they actually sat in a T1 and test drove it. 

 

I went to my dealer in March 2019 with the intention of buying a loaded out 2018 heavily discounted, or a gently used Denali. Once I sat in the front and rear of my RST, it was a done deal. I just knew I would have buyer's remorse if I bought a K2. 

The T1s are improved in every single way. It's not even close. No disrespect to those who enjoy their K2s. I enjoyed my 2007 GMT-900 for 12 years, and was pleased with it. But when it was time to upgrade, I'm beyond happy I skipped the K2 and went straight to the T1 platform. 

 

I've been lucky in that, after 9 months and 6500 miles, I haven't had one single issue. No electrical gremlins, leaking windows, nothing. Did my 8 speed have some harsh shifting for the first few thousand miles? Yes. Did my crappy Ranchos bother me with their terrible rebound performance on the rear end? Yes. Have both of those issues dissipated since then? Yes. 

Transmission shifts like butter now, and my $20 exhaust hack makes my truck sound nearly like it has performance exhaust. 

Fun as hell to own and drive - not to mention it looks smoking hot going down the road with the new, aggressive front end styling. 

Edited November 10, 2019 by econometrics

[Likarok]

I thought this was a Ford/Dodge thread when it was titled lipstick on a pig. lol

[Chris Callanan]

2 hours ago, econometrics said:

Did my 8 speed have some harsh shifting for the first few thousand miles? Yes. Did my crappy Ranchos bother me with their terrible rebound performance on the rear end? Yes. Have both of those issues dissipated since then? Yes. 

Transmission shifts like butter now, and my $20 exhaust hack makes my truck sound nearly like it has performance exhaust. 

Fun as hell to own and drive - not to mention it looks smoking hot going down the road with the new, aggressive front end styling. 

Here's to hoping my transmission smoothes out like yours did, and the rancho shocks get better.. (wondering if they ever come out with Bilsteins how much better they will be)

 

I get looks and compliments all the time on my SLT ...  I'm happy with it so far

[Cjc]

2 hours ago, econometrics said:

I honestly think that most of the T1 Debbie Downers who are K2 loyalists would have a much softened POV if they actually sat in a T1 and test drove it. 

 

I went to my dealer in March 2019 with the intention of buying a loaded out 2018 heavily discounted, or a gently used Denali. Once I sat in the front and rear of my RST, it was a done deal. I just knew I would have buyer's remorse if I bought a K2. 

The T1s are improved in every single way. It's not even close. No disrespect to those who enjoy their K2s. I enjoyed my 2007 GMT-900 for 12 years, and was pleased with it. But when it was time to upgrade, I'm beyond happy I skipped the K2 and went straight to the T1 platform. 

 

I've been lucky in that, after 9 months and 6500 miles, I haven't had one single issue. No electrical gremlins, leaking windows, nothing. Did my 8 speed have some harsh shifting for the first few thousand miles? Yes. Did my crappy Ranchos bother me with their terrible rebound performance on the rear end? Yes. Have both of those issues dissipated since then? Yes. 

Transmission shifts like butter now, and my $20 exhaust hack makes my truck sound nearly like it has performance exhaust. 

Fun as hell to own and drive - not to mention it looks smoking hot going down the road with the new, aggressive front end styling. 

Thank's to realize   this not T1 against K2 but don't shove down my throat that  the T1 is better.The truck is still ugly both the GMC and the Chevy only in the front end.Boy since I got the fluid changed in my transmission I would never change my truck for a T1.