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And ordered...let it begin

Badass! I’m so tempted to order one but I’m still waiting on my truck to be built haha. Maybe once I at least have a TPW I’ll order it up so it’s here and ready. I’ve already ordered wheels, I don’t want to get too far ahead
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1 hour ago, bass mechanic said:

i can't  order online because i already have the I-Dash and i don't want to buy another. i just want the tuner part.

Oooh  right, good point! Well, tomorrow is almost here now. Luckily it's only one day of waiting now instead of before when we didn't have a release date, ha

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so i just ordered my Derringer, they are on pre-order, they wont ship until end of the week or first of next week.

they said the exhaust will be released very soon as well.

i confirmed why the increase in HP and TQ over the 2019, he said they don't give that information but the better cooling of the 2020 may be a reason as they are limited only by the heat and emissions. the transmission and engine can handle much more than the tune offers.

i suspect it has to do with exhaust temps, i've noticed they are quite a bit lower then the 2019's so that may have left more headroom for the additional HP

i also confirmed the exhaust will have similar gains, so that means once released with the derringer you can expect in the range of 100 hp and 175 foot lbs of tq. once the air intake is released in abvout 6 months i would guess close to 175 hp and around 200 foot lbs of tq may be possible.

that would bring the truck to around 545 hp and 1100 lbs of torque!

that will be very cool for only 500 bucks!

oh and i was correct. since i already have the i-dash my order was just about 500 bucks shipped.

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so i just ordered my Derringer, they are on pre-order, they wont ship until end of the week or first of next week.
they said the exhaust will be released very soon as well.
i confirmed why the increase in HP and TQ over the 2019, he said they don't give that information but the better cooling of the 2020 may be a reason as they are limited only by the heat and emissions. the transmission and engine can handle much more than the tune offers.
i suspect it has to do with exhaust temps, i've noticed they are quite a bit lower then the 2019's so that may have left more headroom for the additional HP
i also confirmed the exhaust will have similar gains, so that means once released with the derringer you can expect in the range of 100 hp and 175 foot lbs of tq. once the air intake is released in abvout 6 months i would guess close to 175 hp and around 200 foot lbs of tq may be possible.
that would bring the truck to around 545 hp and 1100 lbs of torque!
that will be very cool for only 500 bucks!
oh and i was correct. since i already have the i-dash my order was just about 500 bucks shipped.

Thanks for the info and awesome you were able to get a deal since you already had the I-dash!
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Derringer is here.  Now I'm trying to figure out how to get it wired...definitely as simple as the 2019 looked.

 

EDIT: Now that I took the time to actually read the manual--it spells out the best way and it is installed.

 

Now I just need my gauge pod to show up. 

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OK installed the derringer so i know everyone wants an update..

first off the only way to install it is to run the starter wire in the fender and through the grommet as indicated but the cable could use about 3 more inches (who couldn't lol) 

when you run this thing, you need to route it the shortest possible way to the inside of the metal bracing of the dash to the top and out by the a pillar, you'll have just enough cable! JUST ENOUGH and the other end under the hood secured to the hose of the over flow tank.

honestly this is the hardest part.

now for my impressions..

honestly I am a bit disappointed in the performance. maybe it's because it's a diesel but when i put a tune on my previous daily driver a Cadillac CTS V-Sport with the twin turbo V6 the difference was CLEAR adding 100 hp to that car was easily noticeable. 

with the derringer, i was getting about 24 lbs of boost stock (i live at 6500 feet ASL) with the derringer at level 6 i was getting 27 psi at best. EGT never went above 800 either.

Granted i was at 90% DPF regen and i wonder if the soot load in the exhaust makes any difference or not. by the time i had gone to the gas station for fuel i was in regen status after several WOT pulls on the highway testing it out.

does it add power? yes I could tell but the videos posted online and the expressions people are making about how it "really puts you in your seat" are all bullshit! marketing hype and frankly I feel like I've been lied to.

I would imagine towing it may make an improvement. and I will probably buy the exhaust mainly because I don't want to melt my camper if I have to regen while towing with the factory exhaust pointed right at the front of it.

I went back and forth between stock and level 6 as I see no point in level 3 or any of the levels in between given the disappointment of level 6 the rest of them don't interest me much.

I was hoping for some tire smoking fun! but I still don't think it has enough to break them loose at least at my elevation.

fortunately my daily is a 2017 CTS-V that makes more HP nearly as much TQ as this truck is supposed to make if i feel the need to lay waste to some rubber.

I don't know guys, I wish I had more to say about it, I feel kinda BLAH about the entire thing at this point.

maybe i am just used to the performance or GAS engines and this diesel just is a whole different torque monster blasting through short gear changes that masks the power. The speedo seems to spin clockwise at a decent click under WOT but i guess i was expecting something more. Maybe after some miles and doing some towing i will come in here with a different attitude about it. But as for now i would say it might be worth the money for bragging rights if nothing else, but i am not sure if i lined up next to a ford with the 6.7 power stroke if it is enough of an advantage to not get embarrassed at any traffic lights.

I will say that if you up sized your tires, this mod may be just enough to get you back to "stock performance" but not much else.

I'll see after the regen finishes next time i drive it and on a road with a little less slow traffic in my way if i feel any better about it i will come in here and post my findings with an update. in the mean time i am curious to see what others have to say about it.

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