Trailboss 10spd vs 8spd

Ranger522vx · October 28, 2019

I had a 2015 sierra Denali 6.2 8 speed prior to my 2019 LT trailboss 5.3 8 speed. I absolutely hated the transmission in the Denali. I would shift from park to reverse in it and there was always a delay then it would lunge. At 32,000 miles the transmission was replaced under warranty and still had major issues.

I was very hesitant to get the 8 speed again because it haunted me but my truck is night and day better than my old Denali. I have noticed some very small jerks but for me as long as it doesn’t get worse I’m completely happy with it. I would say the 8 speed is a lot better in the new vs old trucks. As long as my trans isn’t a fluke I would buy it again. However if money is no object the 6.2 10 speed combo can’t be beat. My old 6.2 Denali had better mpg than my new 5.3.

spizike9 · October 28, 2019

28 minutes ago, Doolin-Dalton said:

I have a 2019 TB with 5.3 V8 Ecotec3 AFM, Six (6)spd Transmission, no issues - drives, shifts very well. On the interstate cruising at 65-70mph, I easily yield 22 MPG.

The Goodyear DuraTrac tires are very quiet on the highway, yet very capable off road.

i don’t think I’ve ever heard the words very quiet and Duratracs in the same sentence. And yes I’ve had Duratracs on a vehicle before.

Limelight · October 28, 2019

7 minutes ago, spizike9 said:

i don’t think I’ve ever heard the words very quiet and Duratracs in the same sentence. And yes I’ve had Duratracs on a vehicle before.

second that. Mine got so bad after 50,000 miles the truck would rock from side/side when creeping along at idle. At speed they were so loud it was borderline ridiculous.

Great tires offroad though- really great in fact.

Doolin-Dalton · October 28, 2019

38 minutes ago, spizike9 said:

i don’t think I’ve ever heard the words very quiet and Duratracs in the same sentence. And yes I’ve had Duratracs on a vehicle before.

Well, then there's a first time for everything cause I done said it. All my passengers have agreed too, quiet considering what they are, I'm surprised they don't call them MudTracs. The TB has 33" DuraTracs or just a hair under, on 18" wheels. What size did you have the loud experience with?

The other guy mentioned loud after 50,000 miles (I think that's remarkable in it's own right, 50K on a set of tires these days is darn good. I've had many bad experiences with brands other than Goodyear, on our Honda Odyssey, getting 36,000 miles before the tread was all gone (Bridgestone and Michelin) I had a tire store replace for 50% off, entire set of 4 Michelin Supremacy tires (we had all our "5k tire rotation receipts") because the tires didn't yield but 30,000 miles. They were guaranteed for 50K or 60K something like that.

Edited October 28, 2019 by Doolin-Dalton

spizike9 · October 28, 2019

24 minutes ago, Doolin-Dalton said:

Well, then there's a first time for everything cause I done said it. All my passengers have agreed too, quiet considering what they are, I'm surprised they don't call them MudTracs. The TB has 33" DuraTracs or just a hair under, on 18" wheels. What size did you have the loud experience with?

The other guy mentioned loud after 50,000 miles (I think that's remarkable in it's own right, 50K on a set of tires these days is darn good. I've had many bad experiences with brands other than Goodyear, on our Honda Odyssey, getting 36,000 miles before the tread was all gone (Bridgestone and Michelin) I had a tire store replace for 50% off, entire set of 4 Michelin Supremacy tires (we had all our "5k tire rotation receipts") because the tires didn't yield but 30,000 miles. They were guaranteed for 50K or 60K something like that.

Wrong, the other guy said he’s got so bad at 50k miles that his truck would rock from side to side at idle.

I ran 285 70 17s on my 16 4Runner. I wheeled mine all the time and they were great off road. But there’s no denying they had a loud audible hum while driving. They got chunked you and didn’t seem to hold up great but in all fairness that’s the only vehicle I’ve ever done that with so I can’t say it’s par for the course or not.

The Duratracs are great tires but they are loud. That’s a fact. If I end up getting an AT4 this spring I will change them out within the first week and hopefully get a decent trade in value from discount tire.

ETA: I have the exact same drivetrain in my ‘18 SLT. Motor is nice but the tranny is anything but smooth on the down shifts. I’m glad you’re happy with your vehicle... I truly am.

Edited October 28, 2019 by spizike9

Doolin-Dalton · October 28, 2019

8 minutes ago, spizike9 said:

Wrong, the other guy said he’s got so bad at 50k miles that his truck would rock from side to side at idle.

I ran 285 70 17s on my 16 4Runner. I wheeled mine all the time and they were great off road. But there’s no denying they had a loud audible hum while driving. They got chunked you and didn’t seem to hold up great but in all fairness that’s the only vehicle I’ve ever done that with so I can’t say it’s par for the course or not.

The Duratracs are great tires but they are loud. That’s a fact. If I end up getting an AT4 this spring I will change them out within the first week and hopefully get a decent trade in value from discount tire.

Maybe buy the truck first and then try them for a few and see. That way, you'll have an apples to apples comparison. I checked online, for something like 700+ comments, DuraTracs have 4.8 out of 5 stars. That's remarkable. The other thing, most folks commenting how quiet they are, and yes a few do comment they are noisy. The only way you're gonna know is to have a specific application experience. You're proselytizing otherwise. I'm being honest when I say, the tires have been very quiet on my truck, driving on the highway.

GM is offering $10K off right now, that's a pretty darn good deal. Time is near - get the Trail Boss. I was able to get mine for $37,500 "OTD"

spizike9 · October 28, 2019

58 minutes ago, Doolin-Dalton said:

Maybe buy the truck first and then try them for a few and see. That way, you'll have an apples to apples comparison. I checked online, for something like 700+ comments, DuraTracs have 4.8 out of 5 stars. That's remarkable. The other thing, most folks commenting how quiet they are, and yes a few do comment they are noisy. The only way you're gonna know is to have a specific application experience. You're proselytizing otherwise. I'm being honest when I say, the tires have been very quiet on my truck, driving on the highway.

GM is offering $10K off right now, that's a pretty darn good deal. Time is near - get the Trail Boss. I was able to get mine for $37,500 "OTD"

like I said earlier. The Duratracs are great tires, they are just noisy. Although they are considered an AT they are essentially a MT. MTs are going to have a hum on the road. That’s ok.

Personally I like the exterior of the Trail Boss better than the AT4. However the only thing the current Trail Boss has feature wise that my current truck does is BSM an pushbutton start. Both things I want but there are other things it doesn’t have that my SLT does. A somewhat local dealer has had off and on 12k off on AT4s since last spring. When the time is right I’ll most likely get one. I bough my ‘18 SLT for just a hair under 15k off MSRP so it was $37,xxx + TTF. I have a few grand equity in my truck right now. By springtime I’m hoping to have another 3k or so. Either way I know my truck won’t depreciate 3k by March or April so either way I’m “building a bigger down payment.”

Doolin-Dalton · October 28, 2019

8 hours ago, spizike9 said:

like I said earlier. The Duratracs are great tires, they are just noisy. Although they are considered an AT they are essentially a MT. MTs are going to have a hum on the road. That’s ok.

Personally I like the exterior of the Trail Boss better than the AT4. However the only thing the current Trail Boss has feature wise that my current truck does is BSM an pushbutton start. Both things I want but there are other things it doesn’t have that my SLT does. A somewhat local dealer has had off and on 12k off on AT4s since last spring. When the time is right I’ll most likely get one. I bough my ‘18 SLT for just a hair under 15k off MSRP so it was $37,xxx + TTF. I have a few grand equity in my truck right now. By springtime I’m hoping to have another 3k or so. Either way I know my truck won’t depreciate 3k by March or April so either way I’m “building a bigger down payment.”

Sounds good, plus you may have tax season in your favor if you normally get a return, to put even more down. I think these tires I have are labeled MT, Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac MT. There is some humming on the asphalt, it's just a very low sound that I barely hear and it may be the truck is well insulated? I had expected they would be noisy, based on the appearance of the tread, but they just aren't.

So far on my TB I've logged about 3,000 miles in 5 months through a combination of driving conditions, all with zero problems. Not one issue. I'd give it a 10 on Likely to Recommend (1 to 10 scale) I do have the Custom trim which doesn't come with some features (no radio buttons on the steering wheel) but I'm working on an OEM type Mod for that, I acquired an LT steering wheel and speedo cluster to help make this work in my truck. Other than that, for $37500 OTD (including TTF) it's a great value, with the Dual Exhaust setup, V8, 4WD, SiriusXM, Infotainment, Electronic Tailgate, LED bed lights, High Gloss Black Spoke Wheels, Tonneau Cover, Z71 skid plates, etc...

The other thing, this is my 3rd Silverado (2000, 2016 and now 2019) If you want a truck with superior (forward looking) design and very strong chance of getting 150,000 miles before any major mechanical replacements, this is it.