Engine issue

[2018GMC]

On 10/21/2019 at 7:40 AM, Hunter1296 said:

Got the call from dealer it's a collapsed lifter no parts available. 

Collapsed AFM or non AFM lifter?

[2018GMC]

On 10/21/2019 at 6:43 AM, paracutin said:

You are completely full of crap.  I have a UOA done every other oil change.  I change my oil when the OLM is a t 10% - 15%.  My UOA's are freaking spot on!  Blackstone has recommended I can go to 8500 miles if I wanted to.  I don't, but the oil is still performing perfectly.

What oil and filter are you using?

[TRKLGND]

29 minutes ago, 2018GMC said:

What oil and filter are you using?

I have my oil changed at the dealer. GM filter and bulk dexos oil. 

[TXGREEK]

My Blackstone test results show I can go 20k miles but I change every 4-5K miles. Wait! I guess everyone knows what oil I must be using lol!


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[TRKLGND]

10 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

My Blackstone test results show I can go 20k miles but I change every 4-5K miles. Wait! I guess everyone knows what oil I must be using lol!


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Actually, my Blackstone results don't say how far I can go.  The exact wording was, "try 8500 miles between oil changes, re-sample and we will see if you can go longer".
I have no plans to do that.  I am very satisfied with where I am at.

[TXGREEK]

Actually, my Blackstone results don't say how far I can go.  The exact wording was, "try 8500 miles between oil changes, re-sample and we will see if you can go longer".
I have no plans to do that.  I am very satisfied with where I am at.

Not sure why you’re even bringing this up, wouldn’t make any difference what proof was put on the table by Blackstone Labs or any other test results, there’s an enormous amount of proof on the Internet but no one is doubting that you along with others do what you want cause it’s either within your budget or refuse to think outside of the box cause it’s within your comfort zone. Don’t get me wrong, I completely understand and think that’s great you’re in your comfort zone but that’s what labs are for and have proven that it’s the protection you’re getting during the usage and not going just buy what your vehicle says that’s programmed by the manufacturer themselves in order to appease and meet EPA requirements.

Kudos to you, you’re happy with your decision but for others such as myself, I along with others think outside the box and do our own thinking for ourselves. This is the reason why there is so much advertisements, not just one oil manufacturer, they’re all competing for your purchase. Being an oil company doesn’t make your product the best product out there, though more costly to make, man made 100% synthetic is the best hence the reason for even using the wording in advertising it in their products.

I don’t work for anyone nor am I affiliated with anyone in the oil industry, i don’t get discounts nor kick backs/commission and I don’t go on forums cutting down anyone’s choice of oil, rather inform/educate the differences. If you’re happy with your choice that’s great and may your choice bring you years of great reliability.









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[TRKLGND]

26 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

 

Not sure why you’re even bringing this up, wouldn’t make any difference what proof was put on the table by Blackstone Labs or any other test results, there’s an enormous amount of proof on the Internet but no one is doubting that you along with others do what you want cause it’s either within your budget or refuse to think outside of the box cause it’s within your comfort zone. Don’t get me wrong, I completely understand and think that’s great you’re in your comfort zone but that’s what labs are for and have proven that it’s the protection you’re getting during the usage and not going just buy what your vehicle says that’s programmed by the manufacturer themselves in order to appease and meet EPA requirements.

Kudos to you, you’re happy with your decision but for others such as myself, I along with others think outside the box and do our own thinking for ourselves. This is the reason why there is so much advertisements, not just one oil manufacturer, they’re all competing for your purchase. Being an oil company doesn’t make your product the best product out there, though more costly to make, man made 100% synthetic is the best hence the reason for even using the wording in advertising it in their products.

I don’t work for anyone nor am I affiliated with anyone in the oil industry, i don’t get discounts nor kick backs/commission and I don’t go on forums cutting down anyone’s choice of oil, rather inform/educate the differences. If you’re happy with your choice that’s great and may your choice bring you years of great reliability.









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Now you've gone and made it personal.  You know absolutely nothing about me or my cognitive abilities.   

I was simply pointing out that I have my oil changed at the dealer.  Nothing more than that.  It seems that you were reading a whole lot into it.

I have no idea what oil you use nor does it matter to me.  For me, dealer oil changes are the perfect solution as part of the maintenance plan for my vehicle. 

It seems to me that you are justifying your decision to use a more expensive oil and change it more frequently as "thinking outside the box".  It's your money buddy.  Spend it the way you want.  

[TXGREEK]

Now you've gone and made it personal.  You know absolutely nothing about me or my cognitive abilities.   
I was simply pointing out that I have my oil changed at the dealer.  Nothing more than that.  It seems that you were reading a whole lot into it.
I have no idea what oil you use nor does it matter to me.  For me, dealer oil changes are the perfect solution as part of the maintenance plan for my vehicle. 
It seems to me that you are justifying your decision to use a more expensive oil and change it more frequently as "thinking outside the box".  It's your money buddy.  Spend it the way you want.  

Sorry, didn’t mean to make you feel it as a personal. You do whatever makes you happy, I shouldn’t have made my comment a quote to your comment rather to the other misinformed individuals


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[Grumpy Bear]

16 hours ago, oak 1971 said:

Perhaps, but I still can't shake the feeling that some cost engineer with more calculators than slide rules determined they can make more $$ coming in under CAFE standards than they pay out in warranty. After the powertrain warranty is up the potential outcomes are yours alone to deal with.

I'd guess there is more than a little truth to that. Company's take one olive out of jar to save a million right? Greed's belly is never full. 

 

Still, if you look at that list of reasons you see that heat management in among them and heat GENERATION friend is controlled not by the oil..but by ones right foot. Heat MANGAGEMENT is controlled by the pump, the cooler the radiator and thermostat, the design……  We could and will say the same thing about wear. That too is still in the owner/operators control. The only thing that is not is the design and quality control of that design. The part the warranty is suppose to protect ONLY. Thing is people like to operate and maintain as they wish, not as they should, which is outside that warranties intent.

 

Make no mistake, you thought is solid as a stone. Engineers get payed the big bucks to run the razors edge. Operators do the same thing in the way they operate, in the way they maintain. Everyone is playing games. EVERYONE.

 

We are never going to know the OP's 'root cause' for this lifter failure. Too many people playing the game stand to loose if such a thing becomes common knowledge.

 

OEM is in a trap they themselves set. Owners will lie from the heart to get a thing covered that shouldn't be. The aftermarket stands to loose a reason for the 'fix'. The forum trolls loose a reason to fight and bicker. Misery seems to love it's own company. The cure?  Mud. Pure Mud.

 

 

Edited October 23, 2019 by Grumpy Bear
Why do you never see the flaws until you post?

[Grumpy Bear]

13 hours ago, slimjim2525 said:

Not better, but equally as good when changed by GM recommendations.  

Ah a rational thought. Applaud please.

 

I'm curious and beg your indulgence please. Could you define the words 'better' and 'good' in the context used? Also, if you don't mind the imposition, how do you personally apply changing by GM recommendations by describing your method and reasoning? Think of my earnest request as a teaching moment.  My hat is in my hand....please..... 

[slimjim2525]

12 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

My Blackstone test results show I can go 20k miles but I change every 4-5K miles. Wait! I guess everyone knows what oil I must be using lol!


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There's no way Blackstone is gonna take the leap from a 5k mile oil change, and say you can go 20k.  Prove it.  Let's see the report.

[slimjim2525]

36 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Ah a rational thought. Applaud please.

 

I'm curious and beg your indulgence please. Could you define the words 'better' and 'good' in the context used? Also, if you don't mind the imposition, how do you personally apply changing by GM recommendations by describing your method and reasoning? Think of my earnest request as a teaching moment.  My hat is in my hand....please..... 

Sure.  Use the approved oil in your owners manual, whether it's super tech 0W20, or whatever 0w20, and change per the OLM, or 5K miles, whatever suits your mind.   Do this, and you will not have an oil related problem.

[TXGREEK]

Correction: thanks due to “Seri” I meant to say my choice of oil based on lab results show that I can go past 20k miles, I change early based on my driving habits and that all oil breaks down just my “25k mile” choice of oil gives me highest rated results based on actual lab results. I recommend everyone to use whatever makes them comfortable and can afford but I’m into the best protection during and throughout the life of your choice of engine oil.

 

Will using man made 100% synthetic oil protect your engine better and longer? The proof is based on lab results and not because you whether you change your oil frequently but just how much protection you’re actually getting between oil changes.

 

 

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[Grumpy Bear]

26 minutes ago, slimjim2525 said:

Sure.  Use the approved oil in your owners manual, whether it's super tech 0W20, or whatever 0w20, and change per the OLM, or 5K miles, whatever suits your mind.   Do this, and you will not have an oil related problem.

And your definitions of 'better' and "good' as used in you first post. That is, IYHO, what criteria do you use to assign one product to be 'better' than another or determine the 'good'-ness of A product? 

[slimjim2525]

51 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

Correction: thanks due to “Seri” I meant to say my choice of oil based on lab results show that I can go past 20k miles, I change early based on my driving habits and that all oil breaks down just my “25k mile” choice of oil gives me highest rated results based on actual lab results. I recommend everyone to use whatever makes them comfortable and can afford but I’m into the best protection during and throughout the life of your choice of engine oil.

 

Will using man made 100% synthetic oil protect your engine better and longer? The proof is based on lab results and not because you whether you change your oil frequently but just how much protection you’re actually getting between oil changes.

 

 

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Once again, I'll ask, like I did a month ago.  Show me a UOA from the same vehicle, at the same mileage between Amsoil, and any other GM approved synthetic oil.  Show me the wear metals difference, and that any of these oils fell out of viscosity grade, or that the wear metals were out of range.