2020 L5P First Oil Change

[MrGraff]

Just figured I would post up here after completing my first oil change at 5000 miles.  Went with the Baldwin B329 filter and 10 quarts of Mobil 1 TDT 5W-40.  Had no issues getting the filter off this time around, previous Duramax trucks I had to screwdriver the filters.  Guess Mr. Hulk is on strike!  Anyway attached pictures of the size difference of the old vs new filters being used.  Looks alittle shorter, nothing else changed other than 10 quarts vs 10.5 quarts.

[Black02Silverado]

Nice choice of filter. 

[MrGraff]

We have a local place that deals with Baldwin and they are typically very highly recommended.  I've ran both Baldwin and Amsoil filters on most of my vehicles.

 

One thing I forgot to mention, it took my truck around 20-25 minutes to stop streaming oil from the oil pan.  Another 5-10 minutes till the oil was dripping once every 3-5 seconds.  So open it all up and let it drain and go get a beer or dinner.  One of my biggest pet peeves on oil change places, in n out in 5-10 minutes!

Edited October 16, 2019 by MrGraff

[CamGTP]

When the oil flows like hot liquid lava it does tend to take less time though lol.

 

I would wait for the stream to stop, start dripping and slam the drain plug back in there. That last cup of oil wouldn't make or break it.

[Cowpie]

Yeah, I am not so picky either.  When it starts to drip, I may give it a minute or two and then close things up.  My Detroit 60 12.7L has gotten this treatment and it is now setting on 1,030,102 miles / 22,390 hours and it is still all original and only uses about 1 qt of oil every 11-12,000 miles, getting 22,000 mile oil changes.  That last little bit of oil that didn't drip out is not going to make any difference.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Cowpie

[MrGraff]

I tend to be as anal as time allows, that being said I completely agree... getting every drop is not going to hurt or help.  The truck was up to operating temp when the oil change was done, and it did seem to take longer to drain than previous Duramax trucks.

[BB&Chiveon]

changed mine today - filter was on tighter than tight . drove 6 hrs and 400 miles and oil was nice and hot to drain well. used mobil M1-201a. drain plug is 15mm 

[Colossus]

Don't be so sure Baldwin is the right choice..

 

There is a great fuel filter study going on right now over on duramaxforum.  Lots of Baldwin lovers over there but something has come up that has us concerned.  You can read the entire thread, but the issue starts at post 72.

 

https://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/maintenance/999873-d-max-2019-fuel-filter-shootout-pt-1-a-8.html

 

 

[Teach]

The best filters are those which are OEM and engineered  for your particular engine.    As far as the aftermarket, I have had good service from Hastings and AMSOIL filters.   Cummins engines has issued bulletins not to use Fram oil filters on their engines as the internal seals on the filter fall apart and plug up the piston cooling jets.    Blow a Cummins with a Fram filter and your warranty is void !!!   Stated in the their bulletin.    Better to be safe than sorry, always go with the GM filters !!     May I add that a replacement engine could very well cost with labor, upwards of $ 35,000, why would anyone play games with cheap filters?

Edited October 21, 2019 by Teach
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[redwngr]

7 hours ago, Teach said:

The best filters are those which are OEM and engineered  for your particular engine.    As far as the aftermarket, I have had good service from Hastings and AMSOIL filters.   Cummins engines has issued bulletins not to use Fram oil filters on their engines as the internal seals on the filter fall apart and plug up the piston cooling jets.    Blow a Cummins with a Fram filter and your warranty is void !!!   Stated in the their bulletin.    Better to be safe than sorry, always go with the GM filters !!     May I add that a replacement engine could very well cost with labor, upwards of $ 35,000, why would anyone play games with cheap filters?

Got a link to the bulletin?

[powerhaulic]

I did my first Oil & filter at 1000mi, I like to get the break-in debris out early.

Used Delvac 1 and Napa Gold filter (Wix)

Will now change at 5000mi intervals.

[Teach]

4 hours ago, redwngr said:

Got a link to the bulletin?

I’m certain a google search will locate itCummins Cumberland in Louisville , Kentucky has an interesting display of cutaway oil filters in their parts showroom. All the major brands, even Baldwin, and Wix. Just a cursory glance at the insides is enough to make you glad you're using Fleetguard or Amsoil filters. 

As most people in these forums know, I've lost two engines to Fram filters, one a Dodge 318, the other a high performance engine. In both cases, the filter media came apart and clogged the oil pickup tube in the pan. That was 15 years ago, I've never bought another Fram. Warranty?  Hahaha. Yeah right. Cheaper to get a new engine, than take them to court.

This was taken from Turbo Diesel Register.   The Dodge truck magazine for Cummins

Edited October 21, 2019 by Teach

[Teach]

TSB 09-004-01

Approved Diesel Engine Oil Filters

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Date: May 18, 2001

Models: 1989 -1993 (AD), 1994 - 2001 (BR/BE) Ram Truck

NOTE: THIS BULLETIN INVOLVES 1989 - 201 MY 2500 AND 3500 RAM TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH A 5.9L CUMMINS DIESEL ENGINE.

Discussion:

Customer may complain of high oil consumption, grey oil smoke coming out of the exhaust or breather tube, or mechanical knocking. Neoprene compounds used internally in the manufacture of oil filters not recommended by DaimlerChrysler may separate from the filter, lodge in the piston cooling nozzle, and can fail the engine.

NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN ENGINE DEFECT.

(See the table below for a list of filters recommended by DaimlerChrysler for use with the 5.9L Cummins diesel engine.)

NOTE: SECTION 2.7 OF THE TRUCK WARRANTY MANUAL STATES DAIMLERCHRYSLER MOTORS CORPORATION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FAILURES RESULTING FROM IMPROPER REPAIR OR THE USE OF PARTS WHICH ARE NOT GENUINE DAIMLERCHRYSLER MOTORS CORPORATION / MOPAR OR DAIMLERCHRYSLER MOTORS CORPORATION / MOPAR APPROVED PARTS. DAMAGES CAUSED BY THE USE OF OIL FILTER NOT APPROVED BY DAIMLERCHRYSLER MAY NOT BE COVERED BY THE NEW VEHICLE WARRANTY. DAIMLERCHRYSLER RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING OIL FILTERS. DO NOT USE ANY OIL FILTER CONTAINING NEOPRENE. PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS.

RECOMMENDED OIL FILTERS FOR USE WITH CUMMINS 5.9L DIESEL ENGINE:

 

Part Number	Manufacturer
05016547AC	Mopar
LF3894	Fleetguard Stratopore
LF3552	Fleetguard Microglass
LF3949	Fleetguard Cellulose
3937695	Cummins Cellulose
FL896	MotorCraft Cellulose
L45335	Purolator Cellulose
PF1070	AC Delco Cellulose

 

Policy:    Information Only

Notes: 

The LF3349 Cellulose filter does not appear on this list. It was approved in the past for 12Valve engines, but it has been superseded by the LF3949, which has a stronger metal case for the 24 Valve engines. You can use your existing LF3349's for 12 valve engines without concern about warranty coverage.

What does this TSB mean?
If you use one of the filters in this list, you will not have to worry about warranty coverage of an oil related engine failure. If you choose to use another filter that is not on the list, DC will (justifiably) make you pay for repairs if a piston cooling nozzle becomes clogged by a piece of filter material. Some filters have disintegrated resulting in severe engine damage. When this happens, you must seek compensation from the manufacturer of the filter (numerous reports of Fram failures have surfaced recently, and Wix filters damaged some 1st Gen engines back in the 90's). If the manufacturer is standing behind their product, they will pay for the repairs. GOOD LUCK! Is saving a few bucks on an oil filter really worth the risk of a $4000 repair bill? Your decision... 

Not mentioned in the TSB, but a valid reason for denial of warranty coverage is damage caused by foreign material introduced into the oil filter by the person changing the oil. You can not expect a manufacturer to pay for engine damage caused by carelessness during an oil change, that kind of damage is not due to a manufacturing defect!  Anything in the center of the filter goes directly into the oil galley when the engine is started.  When you open an oil container and pre-fill the oil filter, be very careful that you do introduce into the center of the filter any of these into the filter:

• dirt or debris from your hands or the work area
• a bit of sealing foil from the top of the oil container
• plastic shavings from the oil container
• plastic or paper from the oil filter wrapping or container

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Thanks to TDR forum's Jim and Bob Bergevin for supplying this TSB information

Edited February 13, 2020 by txab

[MrGraff]

Can we please keep this thread limited to 2020 L5P oil change information?  No need to even post anything about Cummins etc.  

 

I've used Amsoil, Baldwin, Napa, Bosch, and Mobil 1 filters over the last 20 years with various vehicles and they have all done their jobs.  There was a recent oil filter comparison done and is also posted over at duramaxforum for the 2019 L5P filters, and the Baldwin filter was one of the top performers.  Generally speaking any filter will have problems if it's used long enough and gets clogged up.  That being said just about any filter out there will do it's job for 5000 miles.

[TXGREEK]

Can we please keep this thread limited to 2020 L5P oil change information?  No need to even post anything about Cummins etc.  
 
I've used Amsoil, Baldwin, Napa, Bosch, and Mobil 1 filters over the last 20 years with various vehicles and they have all done their jobs.  There was a recent oil filter comparison done and is also posted over at duramaxforum for the 2019 L5P filters, and the Baldwin filter was one of the top performers.  Generally speaking any filter will have problems if it's used long enough and gets clogged up.  That being said just about any filter out there will do it's job for 5000 miles.

I believe he’s referencing diesel oil filters in general, both use diesel fuel and diesel oil.


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