New Face For 2021 Chevy Colorado Debuts On Hall Racing ZR2

[RMR]

Until they start offering (limited run) the 5.3 like before- zero interest.

[HondaHawkGT]

On 10/12/2019 at 7:17 PM, Jsdirt said:

I still own a 900 - biggest POS I've ever owned. Haven't even hit 99k miles yet, and I've already got a new differential in it, and the engine has been an oil burner for almost 50k miles so far. I also owned a '00 Jimmy - tied for the biggest POS ever owned. That one got parted out over 11 years then sent to the crusher this summer. Good riddance.

 

From what I've been hearing, the new ones are worse as far as failures that used to never happen on older stuff. Same patterns. GM will NEVER change. 

 

So when exactly was the golden era of GM trucks?

[mistermcgoo]

On ‎10‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 11:15 AM, darks1d3 said:

I like the look but halogen lights?!? 

 Yea. Don't get me wrong, I love GM and try to think of myself as pretty loyal.. but not sure how they justify charging you just under $40k for a "special edition" vehicle and then don't even include premium lighting.

[flyingfool]

On 10/14/2019 at 2:01 PM, HondaHawkGT said:

 

So when exactly was the golden era of GM trucks?

1967-1971 simple years, clean looking

1989-1992 body style is classic 

1999-2004  beginning LS years, not too much tech on-board

Edited November 16, 2019 by flyingfool

[Colossus]

LS.  GMT-800. No doubt.  You might as well include 1999-2006.  The 05s and 06s were good. 

[HondaHawkGT]

2 hours ago, flyingfool said:

1967-1971 simple years, clean looking

1989-1992 body style is classic 

1999-2004  beginning LS years, not too much tech on-board

I would take a K2 or T1 over the 99-04 in a heartbeat. The 800's are faaar from perfection... wimpy 10-bolt rear ends, the same number (if not more) electrical gremlins and bad grounds as any new truck, cheap seats, garbage 4L60e, pump rubbing t-cases, cab corners that would rot out just looking at them, etc. They weren't bad trucks by any means. But there is nothing that those trucks have over the new trucks. 

[Colossus]

Let's hope GM can improve the reliability of the Colorado.  It's one of Consumer Reports most unreliable.  And the Camaro.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/10-least-reliable-cars/

 

[Jsdirt]

'88-'94 (and up to '98 on some models, but after 1995, OBD-II requirements hit reliability a bit) GMT-400 platform was the most reliable truck in the history of General Motors. I've seen many with well over 300k miles on them still rolling down the road. Up here in the Northeast, though, the road salt destroyed them. The drivelines were bulletproof - the bodies, not so much.

 

Nowadays the opposite is true! The bodies seem to last just a little bit longer, but the drivelines are garbage (GMT-900 & up). These days undercarriages rot faster than I've ever seen.

Edited November 16, 2019 by Jsdirt

[Colossus]

Most municipalities are doing away from sand to treat the roads and are switching to salt/salt brine which is not going to bode well for anything. 

[flyingfool]

On 11/15/2019 at 11:14 PM, HondaHawkGT said:

I would take a K2 or T1 over the 99-04 in a heartbeat. The 800's are faaar from perfection... wimpy 10-bolt rear ends, the same number (if not more) electrical gremlins and bad grounds as any new truck, cheap seats, garbage 4L60e, pump rubbing t-cases, cab corners that would rot out just looking at them, etc. They weren't bad trucks by any means. But there is nothing that those trucks have over the new trucks. 

i've had success with them if they stay stock,  the 4L60e is outstanding transmission, easy  to rebuild and upgrade.  10 bolts are strong enough for commuting.  offroading requires HD parts ofcourse... i dont waste my time with modern t-case 4x4's  go solid  axles . old square body is the way to go for 4x4 stuff.  

what all the old trucks have over the new models  is reliability, cheap simple parts and low to no- technology in the cab to distract drivers with modern techy social trends. 

 

i would take this over a k2 or t1 

 

Edited November 17, 2019 by flyingfool

[ickyoldman]

On 10/8/2019 at 7:45 PM, jlong1984 said:

I quite like the look, especially the embossed tailgate, hopefully they'll update that ancient interior while they're at it. 2020 and you still have to put a key in the ignition? No thanks. 

Oh!  The Horror!

[f8l vnm]

This truck deserves so much more .  Face lift to keep it the same for at least another 2 years. which would mean 2023 ( 9 years of production) 

Great offroad capability but very bland interior/engine should also be more special . I hate when GM does crap like this. 

[Ferrari Eater]

On 10/8/2019 at 2:49 PM, Trailboss75 said:

I dont understand why they keep making these trucks with that god awful ugly front grille... ugh..  they need a complete revamp of the front grille on all the trucks, Silverado and Colorado.

Silverado is a little too much, but the Colorado looks great. 

[Ferrari Eater]

On 11/13/2019 at 1:01 PM, mistermcgoo said:

 Yea. Don't get me wrong, I love GM and try to think of myself as pretty loyal.. but not sure how they justify charging you just under $40k for a "special edition" vehicle and then don't even include premium lighting.

True, the prices are very high for what you are getting. This is the most expensive Colorado possible.

(Zipcode is not my real location)

 

[ZDAT4]

I think the grill looks amazing. Now they need to upgrade those dim ass lights.