Huge GM Truck Brake Recall Announced by NHTSA - Is Yours On The List?

[Captainmc]

1 hour ago, oak 1971 said:

Off to the Stealer tomorrow so they can jury rig the ABS pump to pick up the slack for the 2 pennies the saves on the cheap ass main pump. I guess this sort of thing should not shock me, but I'm not any less disgusted. When I was still working in QC, not a day went by when some engineer would not drop in the lab demanding we make room in the schedule to test some bushing or washer that was half a cent cheaper. Damn bean counters.

Agreed. I’m taking my 2015 Yukon xl in tomorrow too. I’ll let you know what they do and hope you let me know as well. They told me they test the pump and if it’s low they will replace it. They are leading me to believe that the 2 fixes are for different issues resulting in same problem. Not sure if I entirely believe this. If they don’t replace the pump I’m going to do it myself. I watched a video and it’s not hard. New revised pump costs $110 on eBay.

[oak 1971]

If it's that cheap I may go for it as well.

[Joe98]

On 9/11/2019 at 10:09 PM, rkj__ said:

My 2018 Sierra 5.3 Double Cab is not included in the recall per the linked VIN lookup.

I have not experienced odd behaviour from the braking system.


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I’m in Ontario, Canada as well.  Just picked up a new Sierra Denali 1500 barely two months ago .  I asked my service advisor about this brake recall  and he said wait till you get a letter.  I just ran the vin # from the link posted on this thread mygm.com I think?.  Anyways;  it said “ There are currently no recalls on your vehicle “ .?   

Kinda puzzling as I asked my coworker if he got a letter and he did earlier in the week.  His truck is 2015 Chevy Silverado 1500 extended cab 6.5 box, 5.3, with  4wd...  what gives ???  

[Jsdirt]

Guys ... this is GM's F-up. Why on God's green Earth would you spend money out of your own pocket, when GM should be fixing THEIR problem?

 

People need to stop playing softball with these a-holes, and if they don't cover their defective, poorly designed, low-bidder garbage, get a class action suit going!!! THEY need to PAY for cutting corners, and feeding us crap! How else is anyone ever going to get a well-built GM product? If you keep handing them money, they'll continue building SHIT! 

[KARNUT]

Guys ... this is GM's F-up. Why on God's green Earth would you spend money out of your own pocket, when GM should be fixing THEIR problem?
 
People need to stop playing softball with these a-holes, and if they don't cover their defective, poorly designed, low-bidder garbage, get a class action suit going!!! THEY need to PAY for cutting corners, and feeding us crap! How else is anyone ever going to get a well-built GM product? If you keep handing them money, they'll continue building SHIT! 

At this point no matter what I buy non GM I couldn’t possibly buy more of any bran, than I already had GM. I will never buy another GM or Ford new. I want no tricks in the engine or car.


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[Captainmc]

51 minutes ago, Jsdirt said:

Guys ... this is GM's F-up. Why on God's green Earth would you spend money out of your own pocket, when GM should be fixing THEIR problem?

 

People need to stop playing softball with these a-holes, and if they don't cover their defective, poorly designed, low-bidder garbage, get a class action suit going!!! THEY need to PAY for cutting corners, and feeding us crap! How else is anyone ever going to get a well-built GM product? If you keep handing them money, they'll continue building SHIT! 

I hear you and understand. However I’ve been down this road with other brands as well. I only want it correct with least amount of drama. I’m definitely going with ford on my next vehicle. This 2015 Yukon has the tail light issue as well and they won’t cover that either.

[TXGREEK]

I’m in Ontario, Canada as well.  Just picked up a new Sierra Denali 1500 barely two months ago .  I asked my service advisor about this brake recall  and he said wait till you get a letter.  I just ran the vin # from the link posted on this thread mygm.com I think?.  Anyways;  it said “ There are currently no recalls on your vehicle “ .?   
Kinda puzzling as I asked my coworker if he got a letter and he did earlier in the week.  His truck is 2015 Chevy Silverado 1500 extended cab 6.5 box, 5.3, with  4wd...  what gives ???  

Wait your turn lol. Not all the 18’s are going to have recalls. After checking 3 separate times, I haven’t had one yet and I’m in an 18 as well.

[TwoBallScrewBall]

On 9/12/2019 at 2:42 PM, BrianBrianBrian said:

..... All this to say,  I'm still in the dark as to how a programming will fix the vacuum pumps ability to keep a constant negative pressure without affecting the engine idle speed.  

you're not in the dark, or missing anything, it's a software patch to mask the issue, plain and simple, we all know it. 

 

EDIT - only now, as a bonus, we will get the ABS assisting the system more, along with the same reduced braking effectiveness, just wont get that annoying message on the dash.   The ABS system already assists when this happens, and it does very little to actually help you stop.   When I almost blew that stop sign into cross traffic, the ABS was click-clacking away the entire time along with the message on the dash. 

Edited September 16, 2019 by TwoBallScrewBall

[Grumpy Bear]

13 hours ago, Jsdirt said:

Guys ... this is GM's F-up. Why on God's green Earth would you spend money out of your own pocket, when GM should be fixing THEIR problem?

 

People need to stop playing softball with these a-holes, and if they don't cover their defective, poorly designed, low-bidder garbage, get a class action suit going!!! THEY need to PAY for cutting corners, and feeding us crap! How else is anyone ever going to get a well-built GM product? If you keep handing them money, they'll continue building SHIT! 

 

12 hours ago, KARNUT said:

At this point no matter what I buy non GM I couldn’t possibly buy more of any bran, than I already had GM. I will never buy another GM or Ford new. I want no tricks in the engine or car.


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Well people do continue to hand them money. Now they hand them, I hear, an additional $3500 to warranty what GM is unwilling to back. Talk about tossing good money after bad.

 

[KARNUT]

 

Well people do continue to hand them money. Now they hand them, I hear, an additional $3500 to warranty what GM is unwilling to back. Talk about tossing good money after bad.

 

I’ve never spent more than 1K on extended warranty. That’s after I’ve gotten at least 10K discounts on whatever leftover or CPO we bought. Usually the wife’s keeps her car 10 years and doesn’t exceed 100K miles. We just gave the grandson an 06 Elantra that was problem free for 10 years. The 11 Genesis needed the center entertainment, backup camera, navigation replaced after normal warranty and recently the sun roof mechanism went out. Covered by the extended warranty. On my Camry after getting 10K off because of the end of model run, and 40 left on the lot. And the redesign 18s coming, they threw platinum warranty in. 5-80K. I wasn’t planning on getting extended on it, it’s a Camry. The reputation precedes it.


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[Savinhillspyda]

16 hours ago, Jsdirt said:

Guys ... this is GM's F-up. Why on God's green Earth would you spend money out of your own pocket, when GM should be fixing THEIR problem?

 

People need to stop playing softball with these a-holes, and if they don't cover their defective, poorly designed, low-bidder garbage, get a class action suit going!!! THEY need to PAY for cutting corners, and feeding us crap! How else is anyone ever going to get a well-built GM product? If you keep handing them money, they'll continue building SHIT! 

GM, already bailed out once, is on a slippery slope. They don’t want to pay the workers, they don’t want to pay for quality parts, yet they charge $60k+ for their top model trucks... something is going to give

[Captainmc]

3 hours ago, TwoBallScrewBall said:

you're not in the dark, or missing anything, it's a software patch to mask the issue, plain and simple, we all know it. 

 

EDIT - only now, as a bonus, we will get the ABS assisting the system more, along with the same reduced braking effectiveness, just wont get that annoying message on the dash.   The ABS system already assists when this happens, and it does very little to actually help you stop.   When I almost blew that stop sign into cross traffic, the ABS was click-clacking away the entire time along with the message on the dash. 

I’m thinking the later models got the redesigned pump? Therefore they won’t need the programming patch? Ive decided to wait and I’m going to have my friends shop test the vacuum pressure before I take it in. I don’t trust GM on this one for some reason.

[Gagliano7]

My 18 sierra all terrain 6.2 dbl cab isn't on the recall list either.

[CKNSLS]

On 9/11/2019 at 9:41 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

Use to be almost anybody on the block could rebuild a motor that was over 10 years of age. Now????

 

This isn't an AFM issue.

This isn't a low idle issue. 

This isn't a crappy pump issue 

This isn't an ABS issue. 

 

This is a maintenance issue. Oil maintenance. SLUDGE. Read the first post of this tread.

 

The INLET screen becomes plugged with sludge.

 

This starves the pump for oil. No oil no seal. No seal, no vacuum.

No oil. Pump fails like any other device in the universe that relies on oil to prevent wear, cool, clean and reduce friction.  

 

Who controls oil maintenance?

The owner!

 

The Government is getting involved because it has dawned on them that the days of people being the least bit mechanically inclined are OVER.

 

Hint: This is happening to trucks that use Dexos 2 oil and the OLM.

Still want to believe that GM engineers are all that and a can of beans?

 

Most report the OLM doesn't usually go much beyond 7,500 miles. Even a conventional oil should be able to handle that.

[Jsdirt]

I wouldn't dare run a conventional oil anywhere NEAR 7,500 miles in these engines. No friggin way.

 

I've barely gone over that with Amsoil Signature Series, and my engine is still failing.

Edited September 17, 2019 by Jsdirt