Real world city MPG?

swathdiver · June 13, 2019

If traveling 60 miles at 70 mph it takes 51 minutes. At 75 mph it takes about 48 minutes. Speed up to 80 and it'll take 45 minutes. Is it worth the risk? Not unless its an emergency.

I travel about the speed limit and get passed by all manner of folks in a hurry. Then a few blocks or miles later we catch up and repeat the insanity.

Traveled I-4 from Daytona to Orlando and the speed limit progressively got slower as we edged further into Orlando and the construction zones. One curious note was that the most banged up cars were the ones driving the fastest. Bumpers hanging off, crushed fenders, bald tires, etc. We barely touched the brakes while those knuckleheads were always standing on their brakes, going from 90 to 40 and back to 80 to 60 and yo-yoing all over the place.

Philipgonzales3 · June 13, 2019

1 hour ago, swathdiver said:

If traveling 60 miles at 70 mph it takes 51 minutes. At 75 mph it takes about 48 minutes. Speed up to 80 and it'll take 45 minutes. Is it worth the risk? Not unless its an emergency.

I travel about the speed limit and get passed by all manner of folks in a hurry. Then a few blocks or miles later we catch up and repeat the insanity.

Traveled I-4 from Daytona to Orlando and the speed limit progressively got slower as we edged further into Orlando and the construction zones. One curious note was that the most banged up cars were the ones driving the fastest. Bumpers hanging off, crushed fenders, bald tires, etc. We barely touched the brakes while those knuckleheads were always standing on their brakes, going from 90 to 40 and back to 80 to 60 and yo-yoing all over the place.

Yeah, I believe the danger comes from the difference in speed more than the speed itself. I personally am a believer of going 5 over, and sometimes even 5 under. Of course slower when traffic or weather conditions dictate to do so.

Kind of like it's the jerks that go really fast or really slow that cause a majority of the issues. I don't know I think you just have to use common sense and one of the biggest things is to not tailgate the person in front of you and leave enough space to anticipate issues and practice defensive driving.

zzrsouth · June 13, 2019

I've been getting 17 to 19 on my commute which I would consider city type driving with the 2.7T. Other than a rattle I've isolated to the steering column and a general dread about oil cooler lines and wiring looms I'm still pretty happy with it still.

Wiggums · June 13, 2019

8 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Six times a year I travel back and forth from Texas to South Carolina. The speeds have really gotten high. I drive usually 72-74. That gets me passed more than I’m passing. I’m an active driver. If I see a pack coming and a passing event for me. I’ll speed up to pass so I don’t have to slow them down. Or slow down myself. I don’t relax driving, but I do enjoy driving. I definitely avoid packs. The worst times overall I’ve seen are rush hours. I definitely avoid the night ones.

Bless your heart. Left lane hogs should be tarred and feathered, then thrown in a pit of fire. They're horrible people.

Moend · June 14, 2019

Most thing that helps fuel is driving calm. You can floor it stop light to stop light. But you are going to stop because it's the law so accelerate with ease. Don't drive like grandma on Sunday after church tho lol.

Cheers

MDSilveradoGuy · June 14, 2019

20.1 over the past 450 miles with my 4x4 RST on 22's. Granted that was all driven by the dealer and not me...

Wiggums · June 14, 2019

22 hours ago, Philipgonzales3 said:

Yeah, I believe the danger comes from the difference in speed more than the speed itself.

If difference in speed was dangerous, Germany's notorious autobahns would not be the third safest country to drive in. Trucks hug the right lane at 60 mph while sedans travel on the left at 80 with a few occasional V-12 sedans hitting 120 mph. I'm not exaggerating. I actually had no problem staying at 100 to 120 mph driving an Audi A6 from Hamburg to Berlin. I rarely had to brake even if there were other cars.

We need lane discipline.

Philipgonzales3 · June 14, 2019

2 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

If difference in speed was dangerous, Germany's notorious autobahns would not be the third safest country to drive in. Trucks hug the right lane at 60 mph while sedans travel on the left at 80 with a few occasional V-12 sedans hitting 120 mph. I'm not exaggerating. I actually had no problem staying at 100 to 120 mph driving an Audi A6 from Hamburg to Berlin. I rarely had to brake even if there were other cars.

We need lane discipline.

Truth! Lane discipline and everyone needs to learn what a zipper mege is! Say you have a sign that says lane closed ahead 2 miles before the lane is closed. If everyone moved over they would leave 2 miles of road unused. It's actually more efficient to zipper merge but yet in practice people don't let you in and shoot you the finger. Not specifically related to the current topic but still. Lol

Wiggums · June 14, 2019

14 minutes ago, Philipgonzales3 said:

Truth! Lane discipline and everyone needs to learn what a zipper mege is! Say you have a sign that says lane closed ahead 2 miles before the lane is closed. If everyone moved over they would leave 2 miles of road unused. It's actually more efficient to zipper merge but yet in practice people don't let you in and shoot you the finger. Not specifically related to the current topic but still. Lol

LOL, if you tried that in Germany, they will actively block you from merging at the end. "You should have done that a long time ago!" It's always ideal to merge when there's space on the other lane once informed of a merge, not at the VERY END! It clutters everything. I could swear you're German.

Mind you, what you're saying reduces traffic congestion and the need to brake.. so that does affect the MPG.

Germans make more use of yield signs than stop signs because it is much more efficient. Stop lights are not as common there as it is in the U.S.

Edited June 14, 2019 by Wiggums

KARNUT · June 14, 2019

Nothing like coming up to a light turning red and there’s no one around. And you wait, and finally it changes to green still no one in sight. Waste of gas. You know the technology is there to fix that.

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swathdiver · June 17, 2019

On 6/14/2019 at 2:49 PM, KARNUT said:

Nothing like coming up to a light turning red and there’s no one around. And you wait, and finally it changes to green still no one in sight. Waste of gas. You know the technology is there to fix that.

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Laziness. Timed lights have their place but should not be running when traffic is light.

Grumpy Bear · June 17, 2019

On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 2:13 PM, Philipgonzales3 said:

Yeah, I believe the danger comes from the difference in speed more than the speed itself. I personally am a believer of going 5 over, and sometimes even 5 under. Of course slower when traffic or weather conditions dictate to do so.

Kind of like it's the jerks that go really fast or really slow that cause a majority of the issues. I don't know I think you just have to use common sense and one of the biggest things is to not tailgate the person in front of you and leave enough space to anticipate issues and practice defensive driving.

Know what the minimum speed is on a NASCAR long track? 160 mph before you get the black flag. That is 45-50 mpg slower than the 'fast lane'. No whinners. Indy car it's 15%. As much as 60-70 mph speed delta. Who is more safety minded than these two?

Unsafe is people insisting on a right to be unsafe and what could be more unsafe than someone insisting someone else drive according to their wishes and abilities?

In the Midwest you can drive a horse and buggy (Amish) on a public road. Get over it.

Edited June 17, 2019 by Grumpy Bear

Philipgonzales3 · June 17, 2019

5 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Know what the minimum speed is on a NASCAR long track? 160 mph before you get the black flag. That is 45-50 mpg slower than the 'fast lane'. No whinners. Indy car it's 15%. As much as 60-70 mph speed delta. Who is more safety minded than these two?

Unsafe is people insisting on a right to be unsafe and what could be more unsafe than someone insisting someone else drive according to their wishes and abilities?

In the Midwest you can drive a horse and buggy (Amish) on a public road. Get over it.

I'm pretty sure NASCAR has more wrecks per mile driven than the general public. Their cars are designed to be as safe as can be when crashing at high speeds.

Gas pedal is on the right grandpa. Lol.

https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/09/18/is-driving-faster-safer/

aseibel · June 17, 2019

3 hours ago, Philipgonzales3 said:

https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/09/18/is-driving-faster-safer/

I think you were half joking, but did you check the source of your article? From the best I can tell it was an opinion piece written for a sophomore level science class at Penn State. So some real hard journalism there.

He claims that "2.2% of all fatal accidents are because of speed." Yeah, okay, and in Wisconsin, only 2.2% of fatal accidents are caused by alcohol. The rest are because a deer jumped out in front of the car.

Regardless of the speed anyone is travelling, most accidents could be prevented by being aware, leaving proper space around you, and not being under the influence. Some combination of those usually contribute to a wreck because one driver makes a mistake and others can't react in time. The faster you are going, the less time you have to avoid disaster, and the more damage you do upon impact. plain and simple.

I do wish police would enforce the "stay right except to pass". I also wish semi trucks had a 30 second time limit to be in the left lane. If you can't make a pass in 30 seconds, you don't need to pass the other truck. That just causes packs and creates road rage.

Driving slow is fine as long as you don't impede the flow of traffic. A slow driver should be courteous and get out of the way, so as not to create jams of people behind them.

Smitty · June 17, 2019

I just took my 19 6.2 on a couple of hundred mile road trip over the weekend. The previous best on my fuel economy gauge for 50 miles was 25.5, I'm not sure how but the average turned up at 26.0 with a best of 28.1!!

I have a little Honda Accord that only gets low 30's as my commuter car! This thing must have been in 2 cylinder mode going down hills!

Smitty