Camaro and Corvette banned in European Union

[Paintor]

This does not look good for GM.

 

Camaro and Corvette are being banned from being sold in Europe:

 

https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-news/news/europe-to-outlaw-c7-corvette-and-camaro-ss-sales

 

New Corvette might flop like the Corvair after all.

[Cpl_Punishment]

What about the Camaros with the V6? Or the Coyote Mustang? Dodge Challenger? 

Edited June 6, 2019 by Cpl_Punishment

[Paintor]

13 hours ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

What about the Camaros with the V6? Or the Coyote Mustang? Dodge Challenger? 

Think the Camaro with the 4 banger will be fine.

 

Ferrari’s and Lamborghini fly down the autobahn with no speed limit...aint gettin passed by no GM car. ;)

[movario]

It's not that they explicitly banned camaros and corvettes or V8s. It's just that the 6.2l doesn't fulfill the needed emission standard for new vehicles. If you buy one that was registered in the US before 2019 and than ship it to europe you don't have a problem at all.

 

It has something to do with the necessity of exhaust particulate filters for direct injection engines (Gas and diesel).

 

Other, smaller cars from other manufacturers, were "banned" too. Even BMW, and of course Volkswagen had problems to get their cars certified for the new emission standard. For example, the new BMW M4 has a now a particulate filter and less Horsepower.

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by movario

[Paintor]

Ferrari gets a whopping 12mpg and is not banned.

 

 

[Sierra Dan]

On 6/6/2019 at 7:23 AM, Paintor said:

This does not look good for GM.

 

Camaro and Corvette are being banned from being sold in Europe:

 

https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-news/news/europe-to-outlaw-c7-corvette-and-camaro-ss-sales

 

New Corvette might flop like the Corvair after all.

Because they want sell more European Sports cars!  LOL

[SnakeEyeSS]

On 6/12/2019 at 9:21 AM, movario said:

It's not that they explicitly banned camaros and corvettes or V8s. It's just that the 6.2l doesn't fulfill the needed emission standard for new vehicles. If you buy one that was registered in the US before 2019 and than ship it to europe you don't have a problem at all.

 

It has something to do with the necessity of exhaust particulate filters for direct injection engines (Gas and diesel).

 

Other, smaller cars from other manufacturers, were "banned" too. Even BMW, and of course Volkswagen had problems to get their cars certified for the new emission standard. For example, the new BMW M4 has a now a particulate filter and less Horsepower.

 

Yeah, for the first time ever, all the hot Euro cars will be more powerful in US spec. New BMW Z4 will have 40 more HP in the US. Now imagine the differences the supercars could have!

[Cpl_Punishment]

On 12/06/2019 at 2:18 PM, Paintor said:

Ferrari gets a whopping 12mpg and is not banned.

 

 

Obviously European governments see fuel economy and emissions as being unrelated.

[movario]

6 hours ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

Obviously European governments see fuel economy and emissions as being unrelated.

Thats the reason behind it. A bad MPG just means that you`re emitting a lot of CO2. That, in fact is not directly harmful for us (in the end it is, because of climate change and so on) but it`s not toxic.

 

While NOx, SO2, CO, PM10 and C6H6 are directly toxic for us. PM is Particulate Matter, and that is the main reason why you can't drive a newer 6.2 anymore. It has direct injection, but in europe most of the gasoline cars with direct injection are now required to have a particulate filter. If it has one, or is not direct injection, than you`re fine. But you would need to run all the european emissions testing which is a lot of cost. And I think GM doesn`t sell enough of these cars that it would be worth to run through all the emission testing.

 

My mother recently bought a new Hyundai Kona, and she had to wait 4 months because hyundai had not done all the emissions testing. (As I said, all the manufacturers had problems with this)

And this is just a 1.6l Turbo with a pretty good MPG.