Build quality by plant?

bshort · April 9, 2019

Any significant difference in build quality between Ft Wayne trucks and Mexico trucks?

amxguy1970 · April 9, 2019

Nope... Both follow the same strict guidelines.

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SierraAT4 · April 9, 2019

My truck was built in Mexico, which I have to admit made me nervous, but so far I haven't found any flaws. Everything is nice and tight, lined up well, really nothing to complain about in terms of the build quality (at 1800 miles).

BlackLS · April 9, 2019

38 minutes ago, SierraAT4 said:

My truck was built in Mexico, which I have to admit made me nervous, but so far I haven't found any flaws. Everything is nice and tight, lined up well, really nothing to complain about in terms of the build quality (at 1800 miles).

Same here........

outrag1 · April 9, 2019

I had a 16 and now an 18 Silverado, both from Mexico and so far so good!

Donnyb313 · April 10, 2019

My truck was built in Mexico, haven't noticed anything off with the build yet. Rear axle pinion seal started leaking at 400 miles, but I'm not sure where the axles are assembled. At least the motor and trans are built in USA.

I did like seeing the "Proudly built in FT Wayne Indiana" sticker on my 2015 2500hd. I'm the type that will buy something at a higher price if it's made in USA. I wish my 2019 had been assembled in Ft Wayne, like a GM truck should be.

Z71RST · April 10, 2019

My 16 was Mexico, my 19 is Ft. Wayne. Same slobs building them in both places. One is just paid better than the other. (I used to be one.) Vehicles are just big legos. They only really go together one way. Where you start having issues is when the engineering is poor, or the quality of the material used is poor. The assembly process is all the same though.

BIGDOGx · April 10, 2019

1 hour ago, Z71RST said:

My 16 was Mexico, my 19 is Ft. Wayne. Same slobs building them in both places. One is just paid better than the other. (I used to be one.) Vehicles are just big legos. They only really go together one way. Where you start having issues is when the engineering is poor, or the quality of the material used is poor. The assembly process is all the same though.

Yeah i'm going to disagree here because the assembly process can go just as wrong as using poor materials or poor engineering standards. Not saying Mexico is worse but human error is a very relevant thing in the production of automobiles and even though they are giant puzzles today, that puzzle can still be assembled wrong or poorly.

ShamrockShooter · April 10, 2019

My 16 was a Mexico and the frame was not properly wax dipped which rusted bad and generally was in the shop 30 plus times but I don't think it was assembly related more bad components.

My 19 has water pouring in the back window and was made in the USA. I have owned it a week and a half and almost all of that was spent at the dealer. The loaner I have right now is a Mexico LT, can't notice much difference.

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OnTheReel · April 10, 2019

Difficult to draw comparisons at this point with the T1s. The US made ones tend to have most of the big problems, but that’s only because they were the first ones produced. By the time production was being split with Mexico, a lot of the bugs (like the leaky windows) had been worked out.

I wanted a US-built truck for a lot of reasons, so I bought in fairly early. I’m sure the Mexico-made ones are just fine but I’ve had too many bad experiences with other companies shifting jobs down there, and the quality has went to hell every time. GM might manage things down there better than most, but who knows.

f8l vnm · April 10, 2019

37 minutes ago, ShamrockShooter said:

My 16 was a Mexico and the frame was not properly wax dipped which rusted bad and generally was in the shop 30 plus times but I don't think it was assembly related more bad components.

My 19 has water pouring in the back window and was made in the USA. I have owned it a week and a half and almost all of that was spent at the dealer. The loaner I have right now is a Mexico LT, can't notice much difference.

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So let get this straight. You took your truck to the dealer in 30 different occasions? Wtf. ?

ShamrockShooter · April 11, 2019

So let get this straight. You took your truck to the dealer in 30 different occasions? Wtf. ?

I stopped counting at thirty, but I count how many times I had to drive it to the dealer which may be multiple times for one issue. Lots of minor things and no AC for 2 months, then my brakes went with a bad vacuum pump. Think my exhaust was replaced 4 times and still rattled. Transfer case control unit, 4wd solenoid switch, new fm antenna, etc. I dont think much of that had to do with craftsmanship of assembly.

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Z71RST · April 11, 2019

14 hours ago, BIGDOGx said:

Yeah i'm going to disagree here because the assembly process can go just as wrong as using poor materials or poor engineering standards. Not saying Mexico is worse but human error is a very relevant thing in the production of automobiles and even though they are giant puzzles today, that puzzle can still be assembled wrong or poorly.

I understand what you're saying, and along with you, not trying to single out any specific race due to where the vehicle is built. But even in Mexico, where they're making less than here, they are still making a killing to their standards there, and rely on their job just as much as we do here. They are just as capable as we are to do the job. That being said, you are right in assembly errors occurring, here or there. That's unavoidable. But what this comes down to is a quality issue. There are people on the line with check lists reviewing the assembly process and ensuring the job is being performed to standard. That's a company wide expectation. So if the vehicles are coming off the line all over the world being assembled and held to the same quality standards as far as assembly goes. All that's left is quality of material, or engineering that can go wrong. Those 2 items are going to drive your warranty claims and for the most part recalls. There are obvious exceptions to this. And there will always be cars that make it to a customer that had an issue in assembly and got past QC. But those are the minority. I'd be willing to bet that because of the economic differences between here and there, that in Mexico, the workers there care a LOT more about their job and to do it right. Over here in the states, trust me, spend some time on the line building these cars and get to know some of the 3k plus workers per plant here in the states. It's amazing they can walk and chew gum at the same time, much less build a vehicle.

Z71RST · April 11, 2019

11 hours ago, ShamrockShooter said:

I stopped counting at thirty, but I count how many times I had to drive it to the dealer which may be multiple times for one issue. Lots of minor things and no AC for 2 months, then my brakes went with a bad vacuum pump. Think my exhaust was replaced 4 times and still rattled. Transfer case control unit, 4wd solenoid switch, new fm antenna, etc. I dont think much of that had to do with craftsmanship of assembly.

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This sounds like a perfect case for a lemon law... I'd be getting a new truck... immediately.

ShamrockShooter · April 11, 2019

This sounds like a perfect case for a lemon law... I'd be getting a new truck... immediately.

I waited it out 3 years and turned it in for a 19 that will will probably be a lemon or buyback inside of 35 days of ownership. All my friends and co-workers that own Ford's just laugh at me

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