The "Catch Can" Explained - By Elite Engineering

[Cowpie]

That is true. The MM act does not apply. Per the actual wording of the act, along with FTC guidelines, it refers to aftermarket replacement parts and an owner doing their own servicing of the vehicle. It does not apply to modifications in any way. I realize that it is a neat marketing argument, but anyone can jump on the Federal Trade Commission website and get clarification. And since the Feds are the enforcers of the MM Warranty Act, they have the say in what it means.

 

The only real application of the MM Act by a non EOM marketing gig has been Amsoil. I don't use the oil in my pickup, but their argument for the MM Warranty Act is valid.

 

It is going to be quite a stretch to prove that a catch can on the PCV line is going to screw up anything, but it is a mod nonetheless, and one that some dealerships will not cotton to very well. After all, the dealership's neck is on the line if they do honor a warranty and then GM Corporate decided that they will not reimburse the dealership over something like this. Keep in mind, GM dealerships are not corporate owned entities. They are privately owned entities.

 

 

 

 

As far as you being mature enough to also know that broadcasting it to the OEM or dealership is about as stupid as it gets, well I hate to break it to you, but you are not as smart as you think you are and apparently you do not understand things or subtle hints unless it is spelled out with construction paper and crayons.

 

 

 

In what way? What did I say that was in error? Is it not a stupid move to disclose something you did when one doesn't have to and one can return the mod to OEM specs before going into a dealer for anything? With the PCV line returned to OEM specs prior to having dealer work, what is there to suggest that you did anything? If you were to disclose what you were doing, that alone could be the basis of them denying a warranty claim if they had a mind to do so. No matter how you slice it, it would be stupid to open your yap and disclose that information. Kinda like putting a sign on your back that says "kick me" and walking down the streets of downtown Detroit. Someone is sure to oblige you. Me thinks ye had your feathers ruffled to go that low with the crayon comment. That's sad you feel the need to directly verbally attack someone when they did not attack you. I am all choked up.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Cowpie

[Nwatson99]

That is true. The MM act does not apply. Per the actual wording of the act, along with FTC guidelines, it refers to aftermarket replacement parts and an owner doing their own servicing of the vehicle. It does not apply to modifications in any way. I realize that it is a neat marketing argument, but anyone can jump on the Federal Trade Commission website and get clarification. And since the Feds are the enforcers of the MM Warranty Act, they have the say in what it means.

 

The only real application of the MM Act by a non EOM marketing gig has been Amsoil. I don't use the oil in my pickup, but their argument for the MM Warranty Act is valid.

 

It is going to be quite a stretch to prove that a catch can on the PCV line is going to screw up anything, but it is a mod nonetheless, and one that some dealerships will not cotton to very well. After all, the dealership's neck is on the line if they do honor a warranty and then GM Corporate decided that they will not reimburse the dealership over something like this. Keep in mind, GM dealerships are not corporate owned entities. They are privately owned entities.

 

In what way? What did I say that was in error? Is it not a stupid move to disclose something you did when one doesn't have to and one can return the mod to OEM specs before going into a dealer for anything? With the PCV line returned to OEM specs prior to having dealer work, what is there to suggest that you did anything? If you were to disclose what you were doing, that alone could be the basis of them denying a warranty claim if they had a mind to do so. No matter how you slice it, it would be stupid to open your yap and disclose that information. Kinda like putting a sign on your back that says "kick me" and walking down the streets of downtown Detroit. Someone is sure to oblige you. Me thinks ye had your feathers ruffled to go that low with the crayon comment. That's sad you feel the need to directly verbally attack someone when they did not attack you. I am all choked up.

 

Hey listen if you do not want to inform anyone of anything that is perfectly fine, that is your business, I do not care one way or the other.

 

However do not sit here and go after me you comment all you want, but back off of me.

 

I am sure there are some on here that are smart enough to read between the lines that has been posted, but I can assure you it darn sure is not you or you would not be continuing to run your mouth.

 

[Elite Engineering]

I think we're getting way off topic here, Moving on......

[Nwatson99]

I think we're getting way off topic here, Moving on......

Yes I agree, aplogies to you and your topic.

[txab]

Let's try to stay on topic and be nice to one another

[BigBlueLB756]

http://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/engine/catch-can-why-direct-injection-makes-them-a-must/

[Eric E. Martin]

Any one have any problems with their catch can or lines freezing up causing seal leaks

[Cowpie]

Not any problems from both my CP catch can on my 2500 or my Elite can on my Cadillac in winter. Been using for 4 winters now.

Edited January 14, 2017 by Cowpie

[Eric E. Martin]

How often do you drain yours in winter

[mookdoc6]

Any one have any problems with their catch can or lines freezing up causing seal leaks

 

 

It happens just think about placement is all and where you live or use the truck!

[sdeeter19555]

How often do you drain yours in winter

I drain mine every couple weeks or couple thousand miles...but I also drive 100 miles a day, so mine gets hot (evaporates the moisture).

 

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[Cowpie]

Well, I use the pickup only occasionally, so the can goes for some time before I have to drain it. On my Cadillac, poor design of the PCV port. location, and no baffling makes me have to check and drain the can almost weekly, as it collects quite a bit of oil. Really not a lot difference than with warmer months. The can on my pickup does capture more water vapor and milky junk in winter. The catch can on my pickup is mounted in the spare battery area. The one on my Cadillac is behind the radiator shroud in front of the engine.

[Amuro]

That sucks! My 2012 Tacoma has a factory transmission pan with a drain plug. I think it's bullshit that they denied you a warranty repair on a drain plug! I actually wanted to install a aftermarket transmission pan with drain plug on my truck to make life easier. Sorry to here that

 

You do realize the definition of "aftermarket part" in that quote refers to a replacement part from someplace like Napa (e.g., bearing for bearing), not a part designed to lift a truck several inches, reprogram its software, defeat its emissions, etc.?

Every aftermarket trinket builder throws the MM act out as though the consumer is blanket protected from any denial of warranty for modifications they do...that is simply not the case.

It's a chance we take and most of "us" don't have deep enough pockets to fight a MM act claim since the cost to have it fixed is less than the headache of the claim and every manufacturer realizes that...I realized that my warranty was potentially voided with some of my mods, I knew full well I was my own warranty station if something failed that was even remotely a result of a mod.

And for those that think I'm full of it...I had a warrantied transmission replacement rejected because I installed a drain plug in the pan years before to facilitate maintenance...figure that one out.

Again, it's a chance we take...

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[Eric E. Martin]

I really want to put the can back on my truck but a little skeptical since the dealership said that the can was the reason for the rear main seal to leak

[RyanbabZ71]

Any one have any problems with their catch can or lines freezing up causing seal leaks

Never and mine has seen temps for a few years in the negative degrees in Jan/Feb. have had mine 4 years maybe

 

I drain mine every 3-4 wks roughly

 

Just drained Friday while doing an Oil change

 

 

 

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