2017 6.2L 8 Speed Tuning

Gorske · June 12, 2017

If I was getting a mail-order tune yes I know that's how it would work. But I'm wondering if the shop will have to pay with their vcm and then try to charge me extra. I'm going to call today to find out and also see if they got my headers in I can't wait to get it all done.

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I would definitely check with them. I know Klug Performance what he charges is with the cost of the credits he would need to tune is included in the price. If they use there VCM they will have to use 8 credits to licence your PCM and TCM to be able to upload tune files to your PCM and TCM. Once you licence your vehicle that is only for that individual VCM. Edited June 12, 2017 by Gorske

wildlyfe200 · June 12, 2017

I would definitely check with them. I know Klug Performance what he charges is with the cost of the credits he would need to tune is included in the price. If they use there VCM they will have to use 8 credits to licence your PCM and TCM to be able to upload tune files to your PCM and TCM on each VCM.

Yes that's what I figured and I don't see how they could really charge extra for doing what is part of the tune. I was kind of hoping they could unlock it and then I would save my credits but I think you're right it's license to each vcm.

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Gorske · June 12, 2017

Yes that's what I figured and I don't see how they could really charge extra for doing what is part of the tune. I was kind of hoping they could unlock it and then I would save my credits but I think you're right it's license to each vcm.

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Now if you want to scan or log someones vehicle with your VCM suite to check engine codes and stuff like that you can without licencing there vehicle. It only asks you to licence there vehicle if you try to upload a tune file.

truckguy82 · June 13, 2017

Chuck, the guy from corvette forums is now a member here.

Chuck, how are you tuning these? People need transparency on what they are doing to their vehicles.

wildlyfe200 · June 13, 2017

TCM back from HP Tuners. Yeahhhh. Ok lets me go put in and see what happens.

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wildlyfe200 · June 13, 2017

Back in ride around the block everything's good.

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Chuck CoW · June 13, 2017

Chuck, the guy from corvette forums is now a member here.

Chuck, how are you tuning these? People need transparency on what they are doing to their vehicles.

YES. I'll be about as transparent as HPT or anyone else that has discovered how to make Cars and Trucks

go fast. If you want a 2017 Truck (and trans) Tuned, I can do it with EFI LIVE.

Not to be a dick or anything, but I would not expect HPT to tell you what they are doing..... They are DOING IT.

I'm aware of 3 people (myself included) who are tuning 2017 CORVETTE, GAS TRUCKS, and (tomorrow) a 2017 DURAMAX A1000

trans..... None of us have any idea of what the others are doing.... But we're all doing it.

However we do it, it's a service we offer and whatever gets the job done for the end user is good in my book.

Like anything else, before long...... technique will float to the top....

Just be happy it's available for you if you want it.

;)

Chuck CoW

wildlyfe200 · June 14, 2017

YES. I'll be about as transparent as HPT or anyone else that has discovered how to make Cars and Trucks

go fast. If you want a 2017 Truck (and trans) Tuned, I can do it with EFI LIVE.

Not to be a dick or anything, but I would not expect HPT to tell you what they are doing..... They are DOING IT.

I'm aware of 3 people (myself included) who are tuning 2017 CORVETTE, GAS TRUCKS, and (tomorrow) a 2017 DURAMAX A1000

trans..... None of us have any idea of what the others are doing.... But we're all doing it.

However we do it, it's a service we offer and whatever gets the job done for the end user is good in my book.

Like anything else, before long...... technique will float to the top....

Just be happy it's available for you if you want it.

;)

Chuck CoW

Good to know. Glad to see more people people and programs able to acess the T87A's I want my truck done now and want to be able to have full acess myself so HPT is my only option.

Thanks for the input Chuck.

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truckguy82 · June 14, 2017

YES. I'll be about as transparent as HPT or anyone else that has discovered how to make Cars and Trucks

go fast. If you want a 2017 Truck (and trans) Tuned, I can do it with EFI LIVE.

Not to be a dick or anything, but I would not expect HPT to tell you what they are doing..... They are DOING IT.

I'm aware of 3 people (myself included) who are tuning 2017 CORVETTE, GAS TRUCKS, and (tomorrow) a 2017 DURAMAX A1000

trans..... None of us have any idea of what the others are doing.... But we're all doing it.

However we do it, it's a service we offer and whatever gets the job done for the end user is good in my book.

Like anything else, before long...... technique will float to the top....

Just be happy it's available for you if you want it.

;)

Chuck CoW

Hpt is making hardware modifications, that is transparent. We pretty much know what everybody else is doing.

You said you are tuning with efi live when we have a quote from efi live in this very thread saying it can't be done.

Your big secret is safe without the how, just need the what.

A chef has no problem disclosing the ingredients, just not the recipe.

Black Denali Canada · June 14, 2017

Hpt is making hardware modifications, that is transparent. We pretty much know what everybody else is doing.

You said you are tuning with efi live when we have a quote from efi live in this very thread saying it can't be done.

Your big secret is safe without the how, just need the what.

A chef has no problem disclosing the ingredients, just not the recipe.

Great example !! We don't need the recipe just the ingredients !!

People would feel a lot more at ease knowing if you are doing a hardware mod or if you are using software only. And a brief explanation regarding why efi live specifically stated that it isn't possible with their software in an earlier quote.

No ones bashing or anything just very curious and a little hesitant to cough up cash for something without a little info.

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wildlyfe200 · June 14, 2017

Well i can tell you one thing I just got my TCM back from HP tuners and I looked at the screws with a magnifying glass I can tell you they did not open it up.

EFI Live software will not even let you access a T87A controller it tells you that it is not supported so my guess is somehow that they're tricking EFI live into believing it's a T87 instead and somehow bypassing the security themselves to get into the controller.

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Edited June 14, 2017 by wildlyfe200

.justin. · June 14, 2017

Well i can tell you one thing I just got my TCM back from HP tuners and I looked at the screws with a magnifying glass I can tell you they did not open it up.

EFI Live software will not even let you access a T87A controller it tells you that it is not supported so my guess is somehow that they're tricking EFI live into believing it's a T87 instead and somehow bypassing the security themselves to get into the controller.

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Are you certain you got back the exact TCM that you sent in?

The T87A can't be tricked. The T87 is a 3MB computer, the T87A is 4MB. They use different processors as well.

wildlyfe200 · June 14, 2017

Are you certain you got back the exact TCM that you sent in?

The T87A can't be tricked. The T87 is a 3MB computer, the T87A is 4MB. They use different processors as well.

That may be something else because I did notice some scuff marks that were on my TCM that were not there before I should have recorded the serial number off of it

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Gorske · June 14, 2017

That may be something else because I did notice some scuff marks that were on my TCM that were not there before I should have recorded the serial number off of it

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I had a 2016 Charger and sent HP Tuners my PCM to have it unlocked and I recorded the numbers and they did send me back my original PCM.