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That's not a bad deal. I would be afraid they would send the 63E though; especially from an ebay vendor.

 

 

Keep an eye on eBay for the PF63's. I ran across 10 of them for $40. Since our Acadia uses it and a friends Traverse that I service I picked them up. At $4.00 a filter not a bad deal.

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OK well I understand that there made in mexico.. but has there product changed? Internally? I know it's 2 totally different things but my truck was assembled in Mexico and 17,000 miles into it and everything good other than a radiator issue

They are completely different now. Cheaper media, worse filtering efficiency and outsourced to no name company.

 

Here is a post by Fram representative from BITOG site:

 

Hello,

I am the tech director at FRAM Filtration. Until recently, K+N oil filters were made in our Albion, IL factory. They have transferred production to a Korean company and are no longer made in USA or made by FRAM or Champion Labs. The filter efficiency has been reduced from the mid 90's% range down to mid 80 percent range in our testing. They now have lower efficiency, lower capacity and a lower cost that they are not passing along to end users. Not trying to sound like sour grapes that we lost this customer but they are not making the filter as good as it used to be.

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Jay M Buckley

UCI-FRAM Technical Training Director

(248) 808-4551

[email protected]

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They are completely different now. Cheaper media, worse filtering efficiency and outsourced to no name company.

Here is a post by Fram representative from BITOG site:

Hello,

I am the tech director at FRAM Filtration. Until recently, K+N oil filters were made in our Albion, IL factory. They have transferred production to a Korean company and are no longer made in USA or made by FRAM or Champion Labs. The filter efficiency has been reduced from the mid 90's% range down to mid 80 percent range in our testing. They now have lower efficiency, lower capacity and a lower cost that they are not passing along to end users. Not trying to sound like sour grapes that we lost this customer but they are not making the filter as good as it used to be.

_________________________

Jay M Buckley

UCI-FRAM Technical Training Director

(248) 808-4551

[email protected]

Wow idk know about this... thanks
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Just pulled the original oil filter at 1500 miles out of a 3 month old vehicle.....the factory filter is a PF63 with a metal spring, metal valve and metal core and indicates, like the owner's manual, to replace with a PF63 and not the new plastic core PF63E which they have been marketing for at least a year.

 

Interesting to note that the factory installed PF63 is labeled differently than the commercially marketed ones (Chryslers had actually marked originals as factory filters). You don't want to be rolling in for engine warranty work with mileage over 20K sporting one of these which could be grounds for an instant refusal, the oil life monitor reading would be moot since it can easily be set without changing oil or filter!

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You don't want to be rolling in for engine warranty work with mileage over 20K sporting one of these which could be grounds for an instant refusal, the oil life monitor reading would be moot since it can easily be set without changing oil or filter!

 

 

You don't want to be rolling in with which one, the PF63 or PF63E?

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Keep an eye on eBay for the PF63's. I ran across 10 of them for $40. Since our Acadia uses it and a friends Traverse that I service I picked them up. At $4.00 a filter not a bad deal.

I've been seeing atleast on amazon the pf63 for over 12 dollars each. The e version I have seen much cheaper.

 

 

You don't want to be rolling in with which one, the PF63 or PF63E?

 

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You don't want to be rolling in with which one, the PF63 or PF63E?

You don't want to show up for engine service at extended mileage with the original factory filter .....as in the photo the dealer can readily identify the original from the commercially available ones in the photo above it.......the one I marked with the "X"having the factory ID tag labeled "replace with a PF63"

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I have a friend who is parts manager at my selling dealer. Yesterday he took my truck in for some warranty work and he brought me back an oil filter, AC Delco Ultra guard Gold, delco number UPF48R. He says give this a try. Its the same size as a PF48 but it's all metal construction and more filtering media. It's got some weight to it when you hold it! He says it's used on the Z06 vettes. He doesn't trust the E filters and all the techs at the dealership are using the gold filters. He sells them for around $10.

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