How can GM get away with this???

TxTruckMan · April 18, 2016

My 1994 Silverado came with Uniroyal Tiger Paws - those were crappy tires. Pepboys sells crappy tires from China, as do others. Those are all shitty tires. To call the Wranglers or LS2s crappy is quite a stretch. They may not be macho enough for some, but they are decent, above average tires. They are plenty adequate for most of the users of our trucks. They are a good balance between ride comfort, price, noise, and efficiency which is what GM wants.

zero_tolerance · April 18, 2016

My truck came with 17" Dueler AT 265/70R17 LT tires. they are heavy and harsh as an LT tire would be, wouldn't change to a P tire, the terrain over here will slice tires like they're nothing, i've put my tires through a lot and never had an issue

white1500 · April 18, 2016

A main issue here is that the Goodyear sra's are being grouped with the rest of the P rated tires, that's not fair to everyone else. And to be honest most half ton buyers don't NEED LT rated tires, it's probably mainly a preference.

And if you need heavy duty tires just buy them? A manufacturer can't please everyone all the time.

Test Alpha · April 19, 2016

My wife's GMC 1500 has Michelin LTX load range E and my Chevy 1500 has Cooper Discoverer ATP also in load range E. We pull a travel trailer and the stiffer sidewall on the "E" tires helps with sway especially when you can air them up to 80 psi.

Also, living down a dirt road, we've had lots of P rated tires cut on the rocks, it was cheaper to have the E tires installed rather then replacing the P tires.

Mileage dropped about 1.5 mpg on average and the ride is not as soft but it's definitely worth it to have good tires!

RobZ71LM7 · April 19, 2016

Been doing it since the 90's... not an issue with good tires unlike the crappy SR-A's.

Badass69 · April 19, 2016

Rocks push through that p rated junk like a hot knife in butter. Try driving on pit run.. if you even know what that is which most of you won't lol. Either way it just doesn't cut the mustard with a 2 ply tread face. I bin my p rated trash when I buy my trucks because I don't like fighting with tires. However for a good 99.8% or more of you... they work just fine.

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HondaHawkGT · April 19, 2016

P-rated = pavement rated.

redwngr · April 20, 2016

Having lived on gravel for more than 25 years I gotta speak up and say that the truth is being stretched.

CadillacLuke24 · April 20, 2016

Having lived on gravel for more than 25 years I gotta speak up and say that the truth is being stretched.

I was gonna say, what terrain are some of these people driving over? I've driven down many dirt roads on my p tires on my Cadillac and have yet to pop a tire. I have stayed on maintained dirt roads, but still, no punctures...yet

Britt Lifsey · April 20, 2016

Having lived on gravel for more than 25 years I gotta speak up and say that the truth is being stretched.

Stretched? On the Internet? No way.... :-)

Adamrg · April 20, 2016

It's BS, really. They should package these trucks with mandatory bfg ko2's.

And then the forum would light up with a bunch of people whining about their poor fuel econ and excessive road noise and demand a buyback

Badass69 · April 20, 2016

I was gonna say, what terrain are some of these people driving over? I've driven down many dirt roads on my p tires on my Cadillac and have yet to pop a tire. I have stayed on maintained dirt roads, but still, no punctures...yet

Pit run. .. not nice 3/4" crush like you experience on a basic gravel back road. Pit run is pointy little boulders with sharp edges that eat tires... and it's what the cover the roads in where I work because it's cheap. P rated tires can't handle it but a basic LT tire will get its tread chewed if it's a softer compound... but never get a puncture. Then again... a lot of the gravel roads have this stuff on them too here... I grew up on gravel for over 30 years and finally moved to a home where the back roads are paved...

newdude · April 20, 2016

You have to order 17" wheels to have the option for LT265/70R17's. If GM put LT's on 20 or 22 inch rims from the factory, there would be guys on here demanding a buy back from GM over the rough ride.

Correct and it is a C load tire, vs. E load the HD trucks run.

My truck came with 17" Dueler AT 265/70R17 LT tires. they are heavy and harsh as an LT tire would be, wouldn't change to a P tire, the terrain over here will slice tires like they're nothing, i've put my tires through a lot and never had an issue

They only weigh 2.25lbs more than a P-metric of the exact same tire. If they were E load, then you are talking about 8-10lbs more per tire.

Georgia1911 · April 20, 2016

Correct and it is a C load tire, vs. E load the HD trucks run.

They only weigh 2.25lbs more than a P-metric of the exact same tire. If they were E load, then you are talking about 8-10lbs more per tire.

When I compared P metric SR-As to C load range K02s in 265/70/17, there was a 9 pound difference per tire. E load range was another 6 pounds.

newdude · April 20, 2016

When I compared P metric SR-As to C load range K02s in 265/70/17, there was a 9 pound difference per tire. E load range was another 6 pounds.

What size was the SR-A? KO and KO2 tend to be on the heavy side of the tire spectrum. My comparison was for the factory P265/70/17 Bridgestone Dueler RHS vs. the factory LT265/70/17 C load Bridgestone Dueler RHS.