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What did you do to your "other" car (aka musclecar) today


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https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/1997-chevrolet-camaro-30th/6687884829.html

 

 

Also a Neiman Marcus not too far away. I think it is the rareset production model Camaro  anyone with the money could buy. The 69 1969 ZL1's needed you to have a dealer that knew the tricks and the "secret handshake" to order one, unless I'm overlooking one.

 

Maybe I should squirrel that away for a retirement fund :lol:

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I think I like it.. in fact I do like it.. The 2019, and the previous 2018 gen.. Wow.. while the styling of the new trucks sure sucks, GM can still build a vehicle that is easy on the eyes..

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I disagree, my 94 Impala was considered a muscle car. The second fastest Impala ever they said in hot rod magazine. 15 seconds in the 1/4 mile, 7.2 0-60. I think 14 seconds in the 1/4 mile, and 6 seconds to 60 or faster takes muscle. It’s the car not the engine.


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The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines muscle cars as "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports cars with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving."[2] A large V8 engine is fitted in a 2-door, rear wheel drive, family-style compact, mid-size or full-size car designed for four or more passengers. Sold at an affordable price, muscle cars are intended for street use and occasional drag racing.

 

By that definition alone, the Muscle car died in the 70's. It's not even the fact that most modern performance cars are 4 doors or fwd or awd that doesn't classify them as a muscle car. It's the affordable price part that killed off the actual muscle car. Now a day's the performance car is the most expensive, not the stripper model with a powerful engine. 

 

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The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines muscle cars as "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports cars with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving."[2] A large V8 engine is fitted in a 2-door, rear wheel drive, family-style compactmid-size or full-size car designed for four or more passengers. Sold at an affordable price, muscle cars are intended for street use and occasional drag racing.
 
By that definition alone, the Muscle car died in the 70's. It's not even the fact that most modern performance cars are 4 doors or fwd or awd that doesn't classify them as a muscle car. It's the affordable price part that killed off the actual muscle car. Now a day's the performance car is the most expensive, not the stripper model with a powerful engine. 
 

I would think that a camaro or mustang that would out run most (muscle) cars of the 70s, even with 4 or 6 cylinders would be considered muscle cars. I had the pleasure of owning past muscle cars. Memorable, fun times. The acceleration and driving experience of modern pony muscle cars can’t be match.


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Most modern family sedans and crossovers are faster than 70s muscle cars. Doesn't make them muscle cars. Camaro's mustang's and challengers are the closest we have to what a muscle car is. But the cost is what makes them not, in my opinion.

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I see plenty of people driving mustangs and camaros that would out run the past muscle cars. The cost is cheaper than what a 70 Chevelle, SS 396 or 454 would cost today’s dollars. Same goes with GTO, 442, etc. They did make cheaper versions that had smaller motors. In comparison the small motor camaro- mustang are faster that most-all muscle cars of the past. I had them, work on them, bracket raced them. My Camry will out run my 70 Chevelle 396-300HP in stock form. I certainly don’t call my Camry a muscle car. Any camaro- Mustang I would.


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Ls6 Chevelle with inflation would be $23k today. Compared to what $40k for a 1SS. Hardly seems comparable. We have performance luxury cars nowadays, muscle cars died in 1972 when emissions, insurance, and fuel prices killed them off. There are faster cars now, but they just aren't Muscle cars, they are performance cars. IMO

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Ls6 Chevelle with inflation would be $23k today. Compared to what $40k for a 1SS. Hardly seems comparable. We have performance luxury cars nowadays, muscle cars died in 1972 when emissions, insurance, and fuel prices killed them off. There are faster cars now, but they just aren't Muscle cars, they are performance cars. IMO

According to hot rod mag, the Chevelle you describe LS6 was close to 5K. It wasn’t plentiful and probably was marked up at the dealer. I was around then and family members were running around in Shelby’s and other performance cars that usually were sold over sticker. Inflation would put the Chevelle close to 40K today. That’s without air, roll up windows, am radio. No one would put up with that today. A cheaper Chevelle with 300 HP turbo 400 trans 273 gear would run around 2300$. No air etc. The performance would lag way behind the base engine camaro at close to the same priced with inflation. The camaro would have air, cruise, power windows, etc.


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