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GM: Buckle Up Or Don’t Go Anywhere


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Years ago GM and other manufactures was throwing this idea around but it came with such backlash from consumers that they scraped it. I read an article on this and its not going to be standard you will have to order it as an option and may be standard on fleet sales.

 

Myself I hate seatbelts as I don't like that strapped in feeling and yeah I know its for my safety but I chose not to wear one also if they do become standard there are so many ways around it.

 

What's next your motorcycle wont start unless it detects you have a helmet on or your boat wont go in gear unless it knows you have your PFD on?

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Won't ever be standard as not all states have compulsory seat belt laws. I see not wearing it while working a field or other low speed, repetitive in/out stuff but otherwise I'll always wear it and require my passengers to as well. You have to be stupid not to.

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So in your eyes everybody is stupid for not wearing a seatbelt and years ago when seatbelts were not required to wear were stupid people too? Did you wear yours even though they were there? Ummm ok so everybody that drives a motorcycle where there are no seatbelts are stupid too. You catch what iam saying?

 

You will never hear were not wearing a seatbelt saved peoples lives which there as been many such as being trapped in you vehicle and not being able to get out and the buckle is jammed or cant get to it and the vehicle is on fire or ready to catch fire, there are many scenarios.

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They already tried something similar back in the early 80's. My grandparents had an '81 Oldsmobile that you had to fasten the seat belts to start it, and IIRC to drive it. They just kept them fastened all the time, and sat in front of the belts. I'm sure the sensor could have been bypassed, but the metal part of the belt had to make a connection.

 

I always wear mine, and require all passengers to wear them while riding with me, or they WALK!

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So in your eyes everybody is stupid for not wearing a seatbelt and years ago when seatbelts were not required to wear were stupid people too? Did you wear yours even though they were there? Ummm ok so everybody that drives a motorcycle where there are no seatbelts are stupid too. You catch what iam saying?

 

You will never hear were not wearing a seatbelt saved peoples lives which there as been many such as being trapped in you vehicle and not being able to get out and the buckle is jammed or cant get to it and the vehicle is on fire or ready to catch fire, there are many scenarios.

Obviously of belts are not there then I wouldn't wear one. But yes, people who choose not to buckle up are being stupid. But that's their choice. As for being trapped, in a modern car that's extremely uncommon which is why you never hear of it causing someone to be killed over being thrown from a vehicle. Being thrown from a vehicle will be far worse in 99.999999999% of crashes. My brother has been on the rescue squad of the town I grew up in for like 16 years. Never heard him say someone would've survived if they hadn't been buckled in. On the other hand, I've heard many times how being buckled in would've likely saved someone.

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Laws aren't driving this...money is driving this. GM's money. The cost of legal settlements, insurance, and legal fees from fatal accidents. If GM is anything like commercial aviation business, GM likely avoids going to trial and settles as many cases as practicable, out of court. Big corporations don't fare too well with juries.

 

Almost 35,000 people a year loose their lives on the highways in the U.S. every year. A good number of them are driving GM vehicles. Reducing GM vehicle deaths directly affects GM's bottom line.

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I read an article on this last week. The one I read on Leftlane News said that this may become standard if a lot of people order this on their vehicle. I always wear my seat belt. My parents taught me to wear it, and putting it on every time I get in the vehicle just comes natural. In my opinion though this is just another needless option that IF it does become standard is just something to add to the price of a vehicle. It's up to people themselves whether they want to wear it or not, that's part of freedom and decision making. These things are getting out of hand.

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I wear mine but the decision should be left up to the person they shouldn't try and make that choice for you. They might lose business if they try and force the issue. So to move my truck around the yard or at the dump I'll have to buckle up, I don't think so, dodge ram here I come. Oops somehow double posted with changes, sorry , Ryan how about hook me up and delete the other one, thanks.

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... It's up to people themselves whether they want to wear it or not, that's part of freedom and decision making. These things are getting out of hand.

 

It certainly is up to people as to whether they want to wear a seatbelt or not, but (at this time) it's also up to GM as to whether they want to install an ignition-seatbelt interlock. That's part of GM's freedom and decision making.

 

And yes, I think you're right. Things are getting out of hand. This just isn't one of the issues I'm referring to.

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It certainly is up to people as to whether they want to wear a seatbelt or not, but (at this time) it's also up to GM as to whether they want to install an ignition-seatbelt interlock. That's part of GM's freedom and decision making.

 

And yes, I think you're right. Things are getting out of hand. This just isn't one of the issues I'm referring to.

 

 

 

That's all well, and good, but like AFM, and TPMS it'll just be another reason for me to bypass (any) new vehicle because of it. Just more dumb sensors, and electrical stuff to replace when it goes bad. I understand what your saying though.

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Daryl,

One that really has me interested is the data recording in these vehicles. Virtually all major vehicle manufacturers have been recording data in their vehicles for many years now. That data has started to be used in court cases. How long will it be before law enforcement tries to use it as evidence? Who owns the data? Is it admissible? Under what circumstances? Can it be used for a traffic violation? etc.

 

Another one is using OnStar or other linked systems to disable a vehicle. Who can do it? When? Who gets to make the decision?

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