Factory undercoating is peeling off!!

jcchevy · April 22, 2014

GM posts releases like this yet my 600 mile truck is rusting all over the frame. http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2013/Sep/0905-silverado.html

Everything this announcement states is true (body panels, fenders, sheet metal) is what its referring too. And it is true, those components will probably last 10-14 years without any major rust issues.

The frame on the other hand, well you can see the article doesn't have the word "frame" mentioned once.

LifeisthePits · April 22, 2014

UPDATE: They sprayed the frame with the same crap so much that it caked on over the rust and I keep finding big chunks under my truck, some even have rust on them. I am currently in a Lemon Law case and did my final inspection last week. It's not a great situation but at least I hopefully won't be stucking owing 50K on a rust bucket.

Silverado-Hareek · April 26, 2014

UPDATE: They sprayed the frame with the same crap so much that it caked on over the rust and I keep finding big chunks under my truck, some even have rust on them. I am currently in a Lemon Law case and did my final inspection last week. It's not a great situation but at least I hopefully won't be stucking owing 50K on a rust bucket.

Keep us posted if you can. I just noticed a couple days ago that my frame (2014 Silverado) is losing wax and rusting too. My 2007 Silverado did not do this and my dad has a 2003 suburban with the wax coating and nearly zero rust (a couple of tiny spots not worth worrying about). I have an appointment this coming Tuesday to get my 2014 fixed but reading through these posts, I'm skeptical that this will be the end of my troubles......

pm26 · April 27, 2014

Keep us posted if you can. I just noticed a couple days ago that my frame (2014 Silverado) is losing wax and rusting too. My 2007 Silverado did not do this and my dad has a 2003 suburban with the wax coating and nearly zero rust (a couple of tiny spots not worth worrying about). I have an appointment this coming Tuesday to get my 2014 fixed but reading through these posts, I'm skeptical that this will be the end of my troubles......

Another quality improvement by GM to justify higher sticker price.

Pinnacle · April 27, 2014

I work at a body shop and ALL the chevy and GMC truck frames I see have rust, just had the box off a 2012 and tons of rust! My 14 Silverado that I traded off had rust that I noticed in about 8 months but more then likely started earlier then that. It's not a bad batch it's a bad system, they should have stopped this wax dipping years ago. If you want a good looking frame years down the road buy a Ford, they paint the frame and it holds up nice. GM knows this doesn't hold up so it must be a money saver for them and that's why they keep doing it. Honestly we put 90% of the vehicals that come into our shop on a hoist to work on them and I look at every truck that comes in. I've seen a 05 f150 that was in the shop for body rust but the frame was cleaner then my 2014, actually almost no rust to speak of, in a state the salts the road like a fat man salts corn on the cobb.

You are absolutely right. I myself am in the auto paint industry and can tell you Nissan, Ford, Dodge paint their frames and it lasts. I scraped my wax shit off on my 08 Sierra on my back under the truck with a heat gun and scrapper, then sanded and used por 15.

Silver space ship · April 27, 2014

POR15 is the only way to fix rust! I love that stuff.

patriot · April 27, 2014

You are absolutely right. I myself am in the auto paint industry and can tell you Nissan, Ford, Dodge paint their frames and it lasts. I scraped my wax shit off on my 08 Sierra on my back under the truck with a heat gun and scrapper, then sanded and used por 15.

Nissans rust out. I've seen it often.

My '02 Silverado had 281,000 miles on it when I traded it two weeks ago, with NO frame rust.

Silver space ship · April 27, 2014

GM knows this wax is junk and it only looks good for a short while if your lucky, I agree it more of a cosmetic problem, yes it shouldn't happen but it's not going to rust out your frame. Why don't they make the wheel well carpeted liner about 3" longer so you don't see the fricking rust! Ram does this and I don't think they have a rusting frame issue (the sheet metal is a different story). The frame under the rocker area is hard to see especially with running boards. Out of sight out of mind. WeatherTech should come out with a piece to cover the frame that would attach to the carpet liner in the wheel well, with their lazer measuring system it should be very simple for them and buy the looks of it a money maker.

Silverado-Hareek · April 27, 2014

So you guys think it's mainly cosmetic and nothing to worry about structurally? I'm not really concerned with the look of the frame I'm concerned with its structural integrity over time as I plan to hopefully keep my 2014 at least ten years, maybe longer depending on my situation then.

patriot · April 27, 2014

On a new vehicle, if you have ANY concerns, it's best to take it to the dealer and have it looked at. That's what you paid for!

Silverado-Hareek · April 27, 2014

On a new vehicle, if you have ANY concerns, it's best to take it to the dealer and have it looked at. That's what you paid for!

Oh yeah I am definitely doing that. I even paid for an extended warranty through 90,000 miles so I'm definitely going to take advantage of that if I have any concerns.

Pinnacle · April 27, 2014

Nissans rust out. I've seen it often.

My '02 Silverado had 281,000 miles on it when I traded it two weeks ago, with NO frame rust.

how old was it their good for 10 years or so.

04GMshorty · April 27, 2014

hows this for quality coating....not impressed with this wax shit..

Silverado-Hareek · April 27, 2014

hows this for quality coating....not impressed with this wax shit..

Yeah that's bull shit they need to issue a recall and repair all of our frames properly. And by repair I mean strip them completely and re coat them properly every square inch. For a few hundred more bucks they could have galvanized or powder coated these frames and been done with it. They're the only truck maker to use this wax garbage.

Everyone with this problem should file a complaint with the NHTSA it's the only way to put the pressure on GM to fix this right.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/

Pinnacle · April 28, 2014

They will never recall this, its an unbelievable amount of time and money to get that stuff off and have it painted. They would have to strip the truck to the frame to get all the frame. It took me 4 days and about 5 hours per day to get that wax off and get it sanded and I didnt get all the frame, it then too me 2 days to paint it using por 15 one coat wait 24 hours then another. They use this shit becasue its the cheapest solution out there, its extremely cheap and much cheaper then painting the frame.