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Autotrader breakdown for any distance:

2014 / 2015 model years

less than 15000 miles

1/2 ton only

used and certified

12,988 listings

Chevrolet/GMC - 5,377 - 41.4%, of this is 3,746 Chevrolet only

Ford - 3,935 - 30.2%

Ram - 2,835 - 22%

Toyota - 841 - 6.5%

 

 

While the numbers are higher, that's not a huge difference, the Chevrolets are only a few % higher than their market share. I figured out how you did it. Maybe we're just 3-5% of trucks that have some funky ass crap going on and that's not enough for GM to care? I'm part of a large local truck club and we have several guys with 14/15's and I'm the only one with a vibration issue (or that admits to it?)

 

2007-2013 used trucks for sale, any mileage, any distance, 1/2 ton only:

 

Total 99,386

 

Chevrolet/GMC: 38968 39.2%

(Chevrolet 27,642/GMC 11,326)

Ford F-150: 36,751 37.0%

RAM (and Dodge Ram): 17,505 17.6%

Tundra: 6,162 6.2%

 

That's pretty close to their market shares of sales.

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While the numbers are higher, that's not a huge difference, the Chevrolets are only a few % higher than their market share. I figured out how you did it. Maybe we're just 3-5% of trucks that have some funky ass crap going on and that's not enough for GM to care? I'm part of a large local truck club and we have several guys with 14/15's and I'm the only one with a vibration issue (or that admits to it?)

 

2007-2013 used trucks for sale, any mileage, any distance, 1/2 ton only:

 

Total 99,386

 

Chevrolet/GMC: 38968 39.2%

(Chevrolet 27,642/GMC 11,326)

Ford F-150: 36,751 37.0%

RAM (and Dodge Ram): 17,505 17.6%

Tundra: 6,162 6.2%

 

That's pretty close to their market shares of sales.

 

ETA: I was meaning to quote the post you were quoting

 

What I think you are missing here is that these numbers correlate with the numbers sold originally and tell nothing of the percentage of trucks with problems. For example. lets look at 2015 sales through september. GM twins lead with 602K followed by Ford (INCLUDING ALL F Series trucks) at 564K, Ram at 330K and Tundra at 89K. If you add those up and use percentages, you get this for new sales: GM-37%, Ford-35%, Ram 21% and Tundra at 5.6%. That is just the 2015 new sales but it illustrates my point. I think you are right that the reality of people with issues is 3-5%. Kinda sucks to think about it if you are one of the few. I test drove 2 GMCs and 4 Silverados, all 2015s, after I read about "vibration issues" and non of them had it. I took them out on the interstate and did a good thorough drive of each of them too. One of the GMCs was a little rough but it was the only Z71 out of the 6 that I drove. I ended up with a 2015 CC SB 5.3 LT with 20" wheels and Bose at a screaming deal and zero issues so far.

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My truck had absolutely ZERO vibrations until it hit around 500 miles, then it started with the 3-4 shift and spread to 1 through 4 and most recently up some hills in 4th.

 

Mine feels like a cell phone is going off on vibrate on a table top (but on my floor). I can feel it in the floor and gas pedal. I have no suspension or wheel issues, I believe it's the TC in the trans or the rear axle.

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Does any one with a 2015 4wd 5.3 crew get a clunk from accel and decel ? Ive been reading about the slip yoke clunk between lower gears. but mine does it between 5-6 gear

 

 

I think what your feeling is the active grade braking. I hate it. Mine doesn't clunk, but I can feel when it downshifts down hills and I don't like it. In my opinion it should ONLY be activated in Tow/Haul mode.

 

The next time you drive it hold the tow/haul button in for 3-5 seconds then release it, you'll see a message on your dash that says something like "active grade braking deactivated." Then see if it still does what you think it's doing.

 

From what I've read there's no easy way to permanently shut if off, you have to redo the tow/haul mode hold every time you restart the truck.

 

 

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dont forget those numbers only show what has ALREADY been traded, and doesnt include those who still have theirs/ will buy theirs new and have the issues, nor does it include those who think its "just a truck thing", as have quite a few people I've talked to have. My dealer admitted to me that they are getting more and more people bringing their trucks in for vibration.

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If more people truly are bringing in more vibrating trucks to dealerships then isn't that a good thing for those who have vibration problems? My office is near a "motor mile" with every kind of dealership you can think of and I see new model trucks of all kinds on the used lot. People trade new model trucks all the time for various reasons. My buddy who works at a dealership told me once about how many trades they get in from people who could not afford that loaded out truck/suv and after a year of those big payments come to get something cheaper. Some people just want something new, some have problem trucks, some are repos, etc. I bought my 2002 used at 8 months old, I was a little hesitant but it served me well for 12 years till it started rusting apart.

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I wouldn't be so quick to jump to Ford either. We bought my wife a brand new 2011 Mustang which has an aluminum hood, it's exploded with rust around the edges. Supposedly Ford has known about it for 10+ years and refuses to fix most cars, there's several class action law suites against them. Google "mustang hood rust" and enjoy hours and hours of reading. I started the thread below, pics are on the last page. Ford refused to fix my car because it wasn't rust through and it was past 3 years, so no way was I going to spend 40K on an ALL aluminum F150.

 

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/general-discussion-non-vintage-mustang/880890-not-happy-ford-quality-6.html

 

So that brings me to my current Piece of Shit.

I've owned GM trucks for 19 years. My first was a 67 C10 (still have it) and most recently a 2000 Z71 I bought used but drove for almost 11 years. Best vehicle I've ever owned.

 

From what I've read on here, I thought GM had taken care of the issue with the 2015's. Maybe I'm just unlucky.

 

I bought a 2015 DC 5.3L 3.08 Z71 on July 31st. Was an awesome vibration free truck for about 500 miles (or +/- 3 weeks.)

 

Mine *feels* like it's the transmission (or when it shifts). It started with the 3-4 shift, as a slight buzzing vibration when it shifted between 40-45mph. I figured it was just a quirk and wasn't bad. It stayed like that for about a month until I took the truck on a trip through the smokies in TN and that's when the vibration monster began. It started getting worst on the 3-4 shift and with +/-2600 miles on the truck now and has spread to the 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 shift. It has also begun doing it going up hills in 4th at certain rpms.

 

I've been working on classic cars for years. I'm pretty decent at figuring out vibrations.

I am 100% convinced mine has nothing to do with the tires and/or suspension. It's a "buzzing" vibration you feel in the floor and gas pedal (you don't even feel it in the seat, at least not yet). V4 or V8 mode doesn't matter. It seems to be limited to shifts and hills at certain RPMs (around 1500-2000). I was hoping it was the TC or pump some people had issues with, but the shift pressures all came back good on the test drive. If it is harmonics, I hope someone comes out with a softer rubber motor/trans/body mounts.

 

Took it to the dealer. Went for a test drive. Bastard would not say he felt a vibration (good training) but they wanted to "take a further look, just to be sure everything is OK." They had it for a day, did some 4wd and brake bolt update, said they took it on a test drive and "could not replicate the issue."

I'm considering that strike 1 towards lemon law.

 

The "good" news? is that it seems to get worse weekly, they can't deny it forever?

 

It's getting to where I hate driving this truck. I'd be driving my 67 right now if I wasn't in the middle of a suspension drop.

 

Oh, and take away the vibration, this was the most awesome truck I've ever driven, for 3 weeks.

 

 

My vibration is different than yours, mine is with the speed and is felt in the seat, console, pedals and steering wheel. My dealer is in the progress of rebuilding my rear end with new bearings and ring and pinion.

 

I also did not noticed my vibration right away. I drove it all the way home from Collinsville Il and I never noticed the issue until I put my trailer on and headed out for a 5 hour drive. Also I didn't drive above 70mph on the way home which helped cover up the problem. I agree with you I love everything else about my truck. I would never need anything more.

 

Also awesome post about the corrosion on the aluminum. I am very glad to know this information. Ford will certainly have problems with the new F-150. It may take some time for them to surface.

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For all of you guys that are continuing to take your trucks back to try to get them fixed, after the 3rd or 4th attempt if the problem remains, you all need to get a lemon law attorney and be done with it. This of course if you live in a state that has lemon laws in effect. I took my truck in 4 times to two different dealers and had a service rep come to my home and drive my truck and had him put in writing what he experienced. Nothing different happened. So I got an attorney.

 

The first and only offer that I received from GM was that they were going to buy back my truck. That tells me that this vibration problem is bigger than you would think. So big in fact that my lawyer informed me that GM has experienced a 65% increase in lemon cases this year alone.

 

So my advice is to do yourself a favor and after you have a few attempts of them trying to fix your truck, get a lawyer. It will not only save you hassle and headache, but you'll get all your money back that you put into the truck to begin with (minus a small portion for the miles that you have driven prior to reporting the problem).

 

Turned my truck in yesterday and I loved that truck. I hope GM pulls their heads out of their butts on this.

 

Good luck.

 

Brandon

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Hi all! I'm new to the forum and have been following this thread for a while. I have a 2015 Silverado LT double cab with the 5.3 and wanted to share my experience with the vibration issue. I bought the truck brand new with 8 miles on the odometer. I probably had 200 miles on it by the time I first had this truck on the express way, as the nearest express way from where I live is 30 miles away. At 65-75 MPH I noticed the center console shaking. After 2500 miles the vibration didn't get any better. Actually it became more noticeable. So I decided to take it into the dealer. Since my dealer is so far away from the express way they really had no way of diagnosing what was wrong and could not get it to replicate. So they did the road force balance and checked the alignment and said everything was ok. Two weeks later I went back on the express way and the vibration seemed worse. Once again, made an appointment with the dealer and took it back. They did the road force balance again and found the front left tire out of balance. They fixed that and fixed two recalls on the truck while I was in there and told me if it still vibrated to take it somewhere else and have them check it out. I went straight to the interstate after I left the dealer and sure enough the truck still vibrated. At that point I made an appointed at the dealer closer to the interstate and asked if they would do a ride along with me to confirm that I am not crazy. That ride along happened today and the mechanic confirmed the vibration. The mechanic said the vibration would have absolutely nothing to do with the tires and has to be drivetrain related. He said he doesn't even think he will be able to fix it!! Everyone be aware also that some of these mechanics work on commission, as I was told and that the only thing they will do is throw parts at it. I lucked out and got a mechanic that works flat rate and said he would need several days to work with the pico scope and really find where the vibration is coming from. So that's where I'm at. The truck goes back next Tuesday and I will get a rental till they figure out whats wrong. Just thought I would share my experiences and hopefully help out someone else who is in the same boat. I will keep you all posted on what they find!

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No. I have felt the grade braking . This jerk and clunk is nothing like that. It jerks/clunks 1-2 times everytime I accelerate from 40-50mph

 

 

I think what your feeling is the active grade braking. I hate it. Mine doesn't clunk, but I can feel when it downshifts down hills and I don't like it. In my opinion it should ONLY be activated in Tow/Haul mode.

 

The next time you drive it hold the tow/haul button in for 3-5 seconds then release it, you'll see a message on your dash that says something like "active grade braking deactivated." Then see if it still does what you think it's doing.

 

From what I've read there's no easy way to permanently shut if off, you have to redo the tow/haul mode hold every time you restart the truck.

 

 

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My 15 silverado 4wd 5.3L has 2200 miles. right now I am focusing mainly on the clunk and shuddering/vibration that happens on my truck when Its accelerating from 40-50mph and it shifts from 5th to 6th. It sometimes does the clunk when it downshifts to a stop.

 

you mentioned "with +/-2600 miles on the truck now and has spread to the 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 shift. It has also begun doing it going up hills in 4th at certain rpms."

 

I am curious to see if mine will start doing that as well in all those shifts once I reach closer to 2600 miles

 

What is the status on your truck as of today ? I have my 1st appointment set for this problem on 10/14/2015.I am expecting nothing good from the dealer. So far they have been A**holes.

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't be so quick to jump to Ford either. We bought my wife a brand new 2011 Mustang which has an aluminum hood, it's exploded with rust around the edges. Supposedly Ford has known about it for 10+ years and refuses to fix most cars, there's several class action law suites against them. Google "mustang hood rust" and enjoy hours and hours of reading. I started the thread below, pics are on the last page. Ford refused to fix my car because it wasn't rust through and it was past 3 years, so no way was I going to spend 40K on an ALL aluminum F150.

 

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/general-discussion-non-vintage-mustang/880890-not-happy-ford-quality-6.html

 

So that brings me to my current Piece of Shit.

I've owned GM trucks for 19 years. My first was a 67 C10 (still have it) and most recently a 2000 Z71 I bought used but drove for almost 11 years. Best vehicle I've ever owned.

 

From what I've read on here, I thought GM had taken care of the issue with the 2015's. Maybe I'm just unlucky.

I bought a 2015 DC 5.3L 3.08 Z71 on July 31st. Was an awesome vibration free truck for about 500 miles (or +/- 3 weeks.)

 

Mine *feels* like it's the transmission (or when it shifts). It started with the 3-4 shift, as a slight buzzing vibration when it shifted between 40-45mph. I figured it was just a quirk and wasn't bad. It stayed like that for about a month until I took the truck on a trip through the smokies in TN and that's when the vibration monster began. It started getting worst on the 3-4 shift and with +/-2600 miles on the truck now and has spread to the 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 shift. It has also begun doing it going up hills in 4th at certain rpms.

I've been working on classic cars for years. I'm pretty decent at figuring out vibrations.

I am 100% convinced mine has nothing to do with the tires and/or suspension. It's a "buzzing" vibration you feel in the floor and gas pedal (you don't even feel it in the seat, at least not yet). V4 or V8 mode doesn't matter. It seems to be limited to shifts and hills at certain RPMs (around 1500-2000). I was hoping it was the TC or pump some people had issues with, but the shift pressures all came back good on the test drive. If it is harmonics, I hope someone comes out with a softer rubber motor/trans/body mounts.

 

Took it to the dealer. Went for a test drive. Bastard would not say he felt a vibration (good training) but they wanted to "take a further look, just to be sure everything is OK." They had it for a day, did some 4wd and brake bolt update, said they took it on a test drive and "could not replicate the issue."

I'm considering that strike 1 towards lemon law.

 

The "good" news? is that it seems to get worse weekly, they can't deny it forever?

It's getting to where I hate driving this truck. I'd be driving my 67 right now if I wasn't in the middle of a suspension drop.

 

Oh, and take away the vibration, this was the most awesome truck I've ever driven, for 3 weeks.

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My vibration is different than yours, mine is with the speed and is felt in the seat, console, pedals and steering wheel. My dealer is in the progress of rebuilding my rear end with new bearings and ring and pinion.

 

This is how mine feels. In the pedals, floor board, seat, steering wheel and console,. Like a vibrating massage chair gone hyper speed and making you feel sick

 

 

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Something to think about. I had front tires balanced 7 days ago by Wednesday of this week it felt like a new truck. Today the ride was horrible and steering wheel vibe is back. It seems that every time the tires are balanced I have 2 or 3 days where it feels great. So that got me thinking, what other than tires happens when you get a tire balance? They jack vehicle up and the front end is unsupported, what if anything would take several days to settle back into a range that starts vibration. Shocks? Springs? Has anyone put spring rubbers in to stiffen up the coils

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